County Raids Lakeland Village Marijuana Dispensaries
“They were brutal,” said Eric McNeil, owner of Greenhouse Cannabis Club on Grand. “They hit just about everybody along Grand.”
Riverside County officials are making good on their promise to shut down Lakeland Village medical marijuana operations.
Tuesday, law enforcement, county code enforcement and a county attorney came knocking on the doors of cannabis operations along Grand Avenue to let owners know they must close their doors or face legal action.
“They were brutal,” said Eric McNeil, owner of Greenhouse Cannabis Club on Grand. “They hit just about everybody along Grand.”
McNeil’s operation was among those targeted Tuesday. He said officials came without warrants and demanded access to his offices and patient records.
“They didn’t end up taking anything from us,” said McNeil, who was offsite at the time of the raid and got word of the visit through a Greenhouse Cannabis Club employee who let the officials enter the facility without incident.
“I got my lawyer on the phone right away and he said we needed to comply,” McNeil said.
The Greenhouse owner said word of the raids traveled fast along Grand Avenue Tuesday, where several medical marijuana operations have opened in recent years.
The medical marijuana dispensary known as Freebies was among the Grand Avenue operations targeted Tuesday.
“They broke down the door,” McNeil said of the Freebies raid.
McNeil said he never received prior warning from the county to shut down, but is abiding by Tuesday’s order.
“We will be closed by tomorrow night,” he said.
The dispensaries are receiving up to 72 hours to close, according to McNeil.
Last month, the Riverside County Board of Supervisors authorized county attorneys to sue any storefront dispensaries still open in unincorporated areas like Lakeland Village. The supervisors contend the operations have opened in defiance of a 2006 ordinance that forbids the dispensing of cannabis.
December’s county action came as federal prosecutors have threatened to haul California dispensaries into court for flouting a national marijuana ban.
Wayne Williams, owner of Compassionate & Wellness Center Cooperative in Lakeland Village, told Patch last week that he will likely close his doors rather than defy county threats and face $1,000-a-day fines.
Williams, McNeil, and Luke Maxwell, owner of the medical marijuana facility Compassionate Patients Association in Lakeland Village, said not all cannabis operations abide by state law, but the men contend they are exceptions.
"Some organizations have their priorities in the wrong order,” Williams said.
"People are getting recommendations and they're maybe not truly as sick as they're getting across," Maxwell told Patch last week.
But McNeil said that while not all operations follow the spirit of the law, the current crackdown is hurting patients who really benefit from medical marijuana.
“This is very hard on them,” he said.
Under state law, “seriously ill Californians have the right to obtain and use marijuana for medical purposes where that medical use is deemed appropriate and has been recommended by a physician who has determined that the person's health would benefit from the use of marijuana in the treatment of cancer, anorexia, AIDS, chronic pain, spasticity, glaucoma, arthritis, migraine, or any other illness for which marijuana provides relief.”
The law also “encourage(s) the federal and state governments to implement a plan to provide for the safe and affordable distribution of marijuana to all patients in medical need of marijuana.”
Click here to read more about California's medical marijuana laws.
UNCLE FESTER
10:56 pm on Tuesday, January 3, 2012
surprised ? the DEA has labeled all of these places illegal.. that is at the FEDERAL level.. so this was NO surprise to anyone, only the timing of the closures for each involved . give it a month or so.. they will all likely re-open.. since the courts and the feds can't make a solid decision on anything regarding these "co-ops", they will return... maybe they can be made to "tone down" the hideous colors and the stupid signage that only make them look MORE like a bunch of nit-wits selling weed instead of like a professional office doing a quiet, yet needed service to those who TRULY need them here. you know--REAL MEDICAL PATIENTS WITH REAL PROBLEMS AND REAL PRESCRIPTIONS FROM REAL--HONEST DOCTORS...the others who have only paid to get "the-card", can pound sand...
Robert Martin
11:29 pm on Tuesday, January 3, 2012
Obama is doing a 180 on this... Election time folks! Time to get those donations from the pharmaceutical companies! Also, he has to look tough to any conservative that might vote for him... AFTER the elections... it's business as usual.
American Girl
7:06 am on Wednesday, January 4, 2012
This has nothing to do with Obama. Stop throwing blame and realize it is, what it is! ILLEGAL!
Chris
8:01 am on Wednesday, January 4, 2012
@American Girl --
Your assessment of the legality of this is simplistic. State law that violates federal law technically cannot stand if challenged. Just because Obama has not chosen to take the CA law to task does not negate the reality that the state law is technically invalid. The place to take the fight to legalize marijuana is the with the feds.
Josh Ovalteen
4:44 pm on Wednesday, January 4, 2012
time to go after the murders roche and merk...killing us is big business
Diana
9:12 am on Wednesday, January 4, 2012
Thank you Riverside County and Code enforcement.........I thought I would never say this but these tacky businesses make the legitimate businesses along Grand Ave look bad and keeps potential businesses from locating here. These dispensaries are a joke, those that have legitimate cards for medical marijuana will still be able to get there medical marijuana as they have before this last year when all these dispensarie owners located here thinking that they could hide from the law, their words not mine. Maybe in the day no one paid any attention to Lakeland Village as far as compliances, permits and so on to have a business here but those days are gone............EVERYONE that owns a business is under the Riverside County eyes, it's all about revenue and we pay dearly.
D A
9:19 am on Wednesday, January 4, 2012
Ratification with enough states could ultimatley lead to it being legal . But the CIA still uses drug opertion money to fund covert operation s. so they will fight it tooth and nail! Oh I forgot they don't need to do that anymore with Bernakie he just prints more money and looses the records of where it went. The other issue is our leaders want us to be sheep with government by government and not government by the people. so no matter what... we lose. as far aas the county the only thing they want is another fee or tax. Just ask Buster or Stone
Diana
3:53 pm on Wednesday, January 4, 2012
You are so right and as a business owner you can bet that we pay out the a%% to have a business in Riverside County. There is no free ride, if you want to own a business suck it up like the rest of us.
Jack Craig
2:31 pm on Wednesday, January 4, 2012
.finally! the riff raff can go some other place...
Mark
4:03 pm on Wednesday, January 4, 2012
I think something needs to be brought to light here. Was the federal government represented in these raids, i.e. DEA, or was this just local and or state law enforcement, including code enforcement personnel? It is a key point as the article just says "law enforcement". For any of these raids to have any teeth whatsoever legally, the DEA would have to be involved. Short of that these raids were and are illegal under California state law. I referenced the Collective called "420 Hitters" who not only prevailed in their recent lawsuit against Code enforcement and Riverside County, but the judge stated the Code enforcement far exceeded their mandate and actually were not only in violation of their rights (meaning the owners of 420 Hitters) but also opened the way for a million dollar suit against Riverside county as the judge further ruled that the owners, and the families were "harassed" (judges words) by Riverside County code enforcement personnel.
So again can anybody from the "Patch" absolutely verify if any DEA officers were part of this raid. Your article leaves this as very obtuse, and I hope it was not by design my good fellows and ladies at the Patch. Again please verify this MOST key piece of information that was left out of your article.
Secrets of Safety
10:51 am on Thursday, January 5, 2012
Hi Mark,
Can you point me to this lawsuit you claim 420hitters won?
It seems the 420hitters.com website is no longer available.
According to the law, Riverside County has every right to close these places down because California law allows for counties to ban these places. I don't know about Code Enforcement being involved but I know Code Enforcement does the bidding for the County of Riverside when an ordinance is violated. And the County of Riverside has legally banned these places. DEA doesn't have to be involved in the county enforcing their ordinances.
Personally, from the looks of the buildings, I wouldn't want to enter the buildings pictured. They look like a code violation even if there isn't any marijuana present.
UNCLE FESTER
12:24 pm on Friday, January 6, 2012
the dea tell these offices what and when to do it.. they dont need to be here and they know it. it avoids the crap the county has to go thru for "harrassing" these people. its the federal laws that make up the whole thing even though local government changes or approves things, they can still be shut down.. if not, they would not be doing it. its just a way for THEM TO DRIVE THESE PLACES OFF until they figure out whoS law is really the one they will follow. its all stupid and wastes thousands of dollars and time for all of us. no one wants to be bothered with this but, until they make a FINAL DECISION, this is what they CAN all look forward to. like it or not, we dont get to make the rules but we DO get to suffer thru them.
Secrets of Safety
12:34 pm on Friday, January 6, 2012
Hi jam,
Yes, all law enforcement has been linked and the feds can use local law enforcement (indirectly) to accomplish what they want to accomplish. That is something some people don't want to accept.
However, the courts still have the ability to determine what is legal and what isn't for law enforcement to do locally. We have not been taken over by the federal government at this point, though we are getting very close to it.
And yes, we are going to have to wait and see what happens as it applies to the subject of this article. At the same time, we have to comply with the laws as they are being enforced, not necessarily the way they read. Unless, of course we want to be targeted until we do get things straightened out..
Megan Batson
5:08 pm on Wednesday, January 4, 2012
Well since there closing shops down, well now we can all get ready for more people growing pot and more people selling it on the streets! Congrats to the county!! Job well done! YEAH RIGHT!!
Tonto
7:39 pm on Wednesday, January 4, 2012
The cartel truckloads are arriving on schedule not to worry :)
Anthony
10:40 pm on Wednesday, January 4, 2012
This doesn't mean anything.
Mark
11:33 am on Thursday, January 5, 2012
Dear Secrets of Safety,
Google it, although I totally agree with your assessment of some of the buildings appearances and the way that they ran there businesses and therefore should be shut down, the fact remains on the "420 Hitters" lawsuit was exactly as I outlined for you, in fact a better path for your information is simple (if you cannot find it by Google), just ask this very venue "The Patch", see links on page or within your "Patch" Account, as they wrote the article on the judgement within 2011. Based on legal opinion, INCLUDING the States Attorney's General Office, these type raids are illegal based on the original Prop. 215 legislation. Just as states are "trumped" by federal law, so are counties "trumped" by state law. As far as "420 Hitters" not being opened, it is my understanding that they are in the process of bringing that million dollar suit against the county and code enforcement, which is the main thrust of their time now.
Secrets of Safety
11:55 am on Thursday, January 5, 2012
Hi Mark,
I did find it. Thanks,
However, I think the ruling is specific to the person filing the suit.
Unless there is an appeals court that rules, it isn't a binding ruling on other cases.
Also, we still go back to the law that says the county can ban them and they have. The way they go about enforcing it is what is possibly in question. However, I think the ordinance is for unincorporated areas. Is the area where these places are unincorporated?
I personally think, most of them are operating outside the state law and therefore should close. I also think that in order to show good faith, these places should approach the county and prove to the county that they are complying with the law.
In my opinion, most of the people who are involved in this struggle won't see law enforcement or the government as an ally, but rather the enemy and the government will continue seeing them as the enemy, thus no resolution.
What is most disturbing about what is going on right now is law enforcement is much more active in advising and lobbying against the use of marijuana than it should be. Their job is to enforce the law, not to try to keep things illegal. But then again, law enforcement has a whole division set up for targeting marijuana. So, the battle continues.
Mike
6:23 am on Monday, January 16, 2012
Mark: YOU HAVE IT RIGHT. It's refreshing to hear the truth as backed up by facts not EMOTIONS!
Mark
12:59 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012
Of course it was specific for the person filing the suit, it was not a class action suit. However, it certainly sets a precedent and opens wide for similar suits to be brought against the county, which in my opinion the counties WILL see in mass if these illegal raids are not stopped. You cannot just run roughshod over citizens whose Constitutional Rights have been so grossly trampled on that a Judge has to use words such as "being harassed" by any government agency, not only Riverside County Code Enforcement. As an aside why do Riverside County Code Enforcement vehicles have "light bars" on them? Scare tactic like they are some kind of LAW enforcement? Their job is to enforce CODES not laws! Code enforcement is totally out of control and needs the public to reel them in through their legislators.
Secrets of Safety
1:08 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012
It seems obvious you aren't interested in knowing that a court case is not binding on any other case unless the appeals court or the supreme court has made ruling.
I recognize there are a few law suits currently in the courts on the federal level. Until those are resolved, we will continue to see the state and the counties enforce as they chose to do so. If you don't like it then, as you suggested, sue.
The fact of the matter is, the county has banned and is enforcing that ban.
As a side note, why don't you try giving the Patriot Act a read. When you finish that, we can discuss this issue with a little different perspective. People don't realize what powers the police have in this country as the direct result of the Patriot Act.
Complain, cry, snivel, whine, whatever you call it.. the only recourse is to prove your case in court. And although the government is broke and has been for a long time, they WILL continue to do whatever they want until we start electing responsible citizens into government offices. That's life.. We don't have to like it, but that's the way it is.
Mark
1:00 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012
I have confirmed by the author of this article that the Federal Government (DEA) WAS NOT involved in these raids at all, so the way I see it ( as the STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL agrees) they are in direct violation of state law under Prop 215 in conducting these raids. AS far as any state or local law enforcement is concerned, I can assure you that the responsible Collectives along Grand Avenue DO NOT look upon them as the "enemy", rather they are very much law enforcement friendly doing exactly what is required by Prop 215 which includes full co-operation with them. It is in the best interest of the responsible Collectives to be law enforcement friendly, and by what I know are in total compliance with the law, open for visits by said law enforcement at their will. Only the Collectives that operate outside the law, should be shut down, not the few responsible, very presentable buildings and surroundings, including keeping young people away from their establishments, including gross and stupid signage,etc., should be allowed to remain opened.
Secrets of Safety
1:10 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012
Riverside County has banned them all. The apeals court ruled that counties can ban them and Riverside County has. Get that changed or successfully challenge it in court and then you have an argument here. Until then, if you don't want to take it to court, get over it.
Diana
1:26 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012
FYI......We just drove down Grand Ave in Lakeland Village, there are currently three collectives still open and operating, the one across the street from the thrift store on the Lake side of Grand, one in a white house on the Ortega side and one that is on the building that used to be owned by Pressure Washer sales also on the Ortega side. The three that were shut down, two are pictured in this article the other was at the other end of Grand on the same lot as the tire shop, I still think there might be one more in operation in the arched building by the Grand Ave/Riverside sweep. Perhaps code enforcement went after the two pictured here because they did a great job of painting their buildings so they would be noticed.
Secrets of Safety
1:28 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012
Yeah, I kinda thought those buildings were a blatant advertisement for things not wanted..
Mark
1:40 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012
Part 1
I am very familiar with the Patriot Act in depth, and I believe that informed people such as you should realize that their are vast numbers of us out here that realize the abuse that local law enforcement is using hiding under "homeland security". The Patriot Act was created to make this nation safe against its enemies in the world. This I support for these uneasy times worldwide. The Patriot Act was not designed to give local law enforcement Carte Blanc to use the way they do in MOST all law enforcement issues, even on the local level, in other words it was designed for NATIONAL SECURITY, not the abuses that local law enforcement nationwide uses it in their everyday law enforcement issues. I cannot get George Orwell's book "1984" out of my mind since these abuses by local law enforcement have occurred, which by the way are getting worse not better! We simply live in a Police State right here in the greatest country in the world, the US of A. Do not shades of the Third Reich and Gestapo tactics of WW 2 mirror what is happening to this country? May I ask what happened to our Constitutional Right to privacy? It is TOTALLY GONE, and we idly stand by and let it further deteriorate. Continued below.
Mark
1:40 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012
Part 2
I would rather live as our sage forefathers designed in a country such as our great nation in privacy, than in a total Police State that we have become, where every call, Internet connection, and movement are monitored 24/7. That folks is exactly where we stand literally letting line level law enforcement "look into our bedrooms" while we make love to our wives. Is this what we really want America? I surely do not!
Secrets of Safety
2:59 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012
Mark,
While I agree and it seems you and I are on the same page with regard to what is and what should or shouldn't be, it is what it is and if we don't like it, we have to find a legal way to go about getting things changed back.
However, given the way things are, either we comply or we face whatever actions law enforcement deem fit. Whether you and I agree or not, it takes court action to obtain relief. That is something average citizens (in most cases) don't have the resources for. That is an unfortunate fact and is one reason the government has been able to effectively change the constitution without going through the established process.
Yes, Hitler staged a major event in order to get the citizens to willingly give up their rights in exchange for "safety". It's a trick used more than once in history. Our government would never do such a thing... well.... that remains to be proven.
Yes, I agree these things shouldn't be allowed, but unless we have the money, or know someone who does and we elect responsible (truly constitutionally minded) citizens back into office, we will have to live with what 1984 has proven to be our future (present).
Tonto
6:09 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012
Why can't they, or won't, stop the hundreds of tons of weed flowing here from Mexico?
Secrets of Safety
6:16 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012
Well Tonto,
That's an easy one.
Our government has an entire system set up to battle (not win the war) the importation of marijuana as well as other drugs into this country. If the government were to "win" that war those people in that system would no longer have work.
Secondly, and entire industry is set up for "treatment" of people they claim need ongoing treatment. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what would happen to that industry if we "won" that war...
Economics, that's what is about.
Tonto
6:47 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012
I agree SOS. Weed is also Mexico's biggest cash crop. Every once in a while a load of bunk weed is "busted" to make it look good. The real good stuff sails through I think.
Secrets of Safety
6:54 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012
Anyone believing otherwise is just simply uninformed and unaware of how our government works. We can apply the same to many of the "wars" declared on different things within our country by our politicians.
It's all done by creating a perpetuating fear and disinformation and then declaring some sort of "war" on whatever it is the government wants to create jobs to fight. It's called in government circles as "making work". Make government look like it's accomplishing something. Trillions of dollars have been spent on these "wars". Millions of lives are ruined by these "wars", but nothing is really accomplished.
Tonto
7:03 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012
Private sector gets an A on creating productive jobs and government gets an F for its creation of unproductive jobs. The unprodutcive "jobs" far out weigh the productive ones. The nation is slipping backward.
Secrets of Safety
7:17 pm on Thursday, January 5, 2012
Private sector business has to create productive jobs to exist.
Government has to create justification for it's existence and or expenditures.
Unfortunately our country will continue going backwards as long as citizens believe the government has to solve problems we can take care of within our families and our communities.
It wasn't until the citizens began placing the burden upon the politicians to solve problems that the government began to change.
Mark
8:45 am on Friday, January 6, 2012
Hi SOS,
Great responses, and I for one know that the legitimate Collectives that remain open are very well represented by very knowledgeable lawyers, who can and will take the County of Riverside and Code Enforcement in particular to court and win, where all of their legal costs will be returned to them when they prevail in their suits, just as "420 Hitters" did in 2011. That opens the floodgate statewide for lawsuits that are going to cost the taxpayers monies surely to run in the 10's of millions of $. Is this very prudent on the part of local government agencies, especially in this Economy? I think not.
Mark
8:46 am on Friday, January 6, 2012
AS far as getting the pendulum to swing back from the total abuse of the Patriot act is going to take legal action on a national level, simply the ACLU is not enough, what is needed is every voting American (and I mean bi-partisan here) needs to ask their elected officials what their stand is on losing our right to privacy given by our great Constitution, and if they are not behind for changing said abuses back to a workable Patriot Act for National Security ONLY, then we fire them and find someone who will represent what the American people want, not government agencies acting like "big brother", monitoring our every move, and deciding what is BEST for us. We our a smart nation of Americans, we are simply being hoodwinked, by government that this is the best course of action. By the way I think we are right on course to EXACTLY what happened in Nazi Germany, not one difference, and as I have said previously, it is getting much worse, not better! Wake up America, before it really is too late to even have our Constitutional Rights enforced.
Secrets of Safety
10:03 am on Friday, January 6, 2012
Hey Mark,
Finally getting to the real issues is extremely refreshing.
We are on the same page.
I wonder if they even teach what happened in Germany for history class anymore.
Yes, we ARE traveling down the exact same path as what happened there, with a few minor differences.
As far as the Patriot Act and what can be done to make sure it is only used for the purpose of "National Security", that's actually going to be difficult in ideal circumstances. In order to change the way it is applied, it will have to be reworded to use more specific language.
I laughed when I saw a video of Riverside County Sheriff Representatives in a meeting over in the Palm Springs area back in 2006. In a nut shell, they said they had a hard time with Prop. 215 because it isn't clearly stated how to apply the law, and until 420 came out, they continued "business as usual" for people who were caught with marijuana even though they did have recommendations. I would have expected that if the law wasn't clear, instead of "business as usual", they would not bother those people who had recommendations.
What was funny about it was, in the case of ambiguous powers, they seem to have no problem changing the way they operate to which ever way serves them better.
***APATHY***
How do you overcome that to get people to understand that there is a real need to elect the right people into office? That is the one thing that has allowed things to get to where they are. (1 of 2)
Secrets of Safety
10:32 am on Friday, January 6, 2012
***APATHY***
I have debated a few people here and the Sacramento Bee and there seems to be one thing in common with most of the people I talk with. They want to complain and make threats about things and people "accused" of crimes. They are willing to convict a person based on what is contained in a "news" report and "to heck with the constitutional process of the courts establishing whether or not a person is guilty.
When I present them with the fact that there is a website being put together so that citizens, families, friends and other members of the community can connect and learn from each other how to protect their children (because politicians, prosecutors, and law enforcement have misrepresented the information available) they disappear.
People don't seem to be interested in actually doing something about what is wrong, they just seem to be interested in pointing out either how much better they are than someone else or they don't want to believe the truth or they just don't care.
People can't seem to understand just how little is left of their rights, and aren't interested in learning what they can do within their own families to make their communities safer without having to depend on the police or politicians to solve their problems.
How do you overcome that? Major corporations with agendas own the media and politicians. We must comply with the laws, we must elect representatives that speak for us, lawyers can't change that in the courts.
Diana
9:21 am on Friday, January 6, 2012
Mark & SOS..great information and postings, unfortunately the majority of the American people will not stand up for this cause or any other cause they are too busy trying to keep their heads above water then to actually realize what is going on around them, in my opinion this is exactly why we the people are in the shape we are in as far as Government controlling our every move and stripping us of our rights on a daily basis. The legalization of marijuana is not even a tip of the iceberg of what is happening in our country and as far as I am concerned not a priority to the American tax payers and business owners that have much bigger issues to be concerned with.
Secrets of Safety
10:50 am on Friday, January 6, 2012
Hi Diana,
I agree, it is very difficult for the average family in today's world. We are so distracted with trying to survive, we don't seem to have a lot of time to educate ourselves. What needs to change is the way we are looking at things.
Our government began the "big brother" approach years ago when people began to demand that the government solve our problems instead of us solving our problems within our own families and communities.
The government had to protect us from anything happening like the "great depression" again. The people in government were happy to oblige. The people wanted to be protected from the notorious criminals and we had good ole J. Edgar Hoover to step in and begin taking care of the problem. He was no better than the thugs he chased, he just had the badge and the support of the government.
Now, things have progressed (or digressed) to the point that you don't actually have to be guilty of anything to be accused. The United States Supreme Court has ruled that prosecutors don't have to turn over any evidence that could prove the innocence of any person accused of a crime. What is that all about? Well, it just proves that the courts are not interested in making sure that the guilty are put away, they are only interested in making sure someone pays, they don't care who it is as long as they can make a case.
This is a dangerous time we live in. People better wake up, or it's going to be very different very soon. (1 of 2)
Secrets of Safety
10:58 am on Friday, January 6, 2012
Change is difficult. Change hurts sometimes.
But change is much better than being stabbed in the back every time we turn around, by the people we put into office over and over again.
*** NOTE ***
For those who monitor these comments, I do not advocate changing our government. I advocate changing those people we send to represent us in government, through the process of the public making educated choices.
I advocate community and family safety through social networking and learning from one another. Getting back to the basics of survival in this world. Community is what we began with and it is what will correct the laws that have been passed that are based in the lies we have been being told by politically motivated individuals, the media and law enforcement who do not reflect the desire to provide for the true safety of our country and our families. I advocate living within the laws as long as they are the laws, and promote rewriting those laws so that those laws are founded in truth and logical reasoning.
(2 of 2)
Toby Nixon
1:19 pm on Saturday, January 7, 2012
But Potheads are Voters . And it;'s not everyone who has to vote, just us. There is a majority of Potheads.In California. RemEMber the mAJority rules!
Mark
9:37 am on Friday, January 6, 2012
Diana,
Thanks, and your information is spot on to what the problem is, I believe if we in American begin to get this type of info out all over America, I am positive a "grassroots" movements will start us in the right direction. Government sources want this kind of debate to be suppressed, because it sheds light into the hidden dark corners they hide in doing their work hoping to remain anonymous.
Mark
8:36 am on Saturday, January 7, 2012
I personally think that the Patch should run an article about what the Lake Elsinore Police Department Special Enforcement Team is about and what their mandate is for the future. Also an article about the Patriot Act and its abuses within local law enforcement agencies, not only here but nationwide would be a great step in the right direction on shedding light to what really is going on to the public in general. What do say, Patch reporters?
Toby Nixon
1:14 pm on Saturday, January 7, 2012
You know this means War right? The court reprocussios at the state level where they take the law seriously, the people petitioned and voted the M-fer in. Whetheeer or not you agree the CIvil rights of these buisnesses have been violated. This was done through back room politics and secret ballots...
Same thing here iN San Jose. We overturned the measure at 3or 4-1, to the amount of signatures needed.
The people want this, I am sure that your backroom politics will be overrulled by the people. The people will challenge it in a different way..
Besides you cannot ban a primary caregiver from supplying his patient with pot. And you can't regulate all of them. ANd I keep patient agreements on my person and won't give them to you.
Diana
4:19 pm on Saturday, January 7, 2012
Toby....maybe you missed the last election when it was on the ballot to legalize pot, the voters said NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think other then your selected few the people have spoken!!
Mark
8:18 am on Monday, January 9, 2012
Diana,
As always I respect your opinions, however what Toby describes is concerning the original Prop 215 which concerns Medical marijuana, not the legalization of pot which narrowly missed this last election. Decriminalization of marijuana is before the congress with the Bi-partisan bill of Barney Frank (Dem) and Ron Paul (Repub) and will pass on the national level making this all a moot point. Additionally the most recent Gallop Poll on the legalization of pot nationwide, is supported by 52% of those polled. I believe in Gallop poles, as they have been around a very long time and seem to be run very unbiased, no matter what the issue is being polled. The issue Toby brings up is totally a different issue.
With respect,
Mark
Diana
3:29 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Those that still are needing their medical marijuana, only two dispensaries shut down, the two green buildings, the rest of them are not open during the day but are open at night. Flying under the radar!!
Secrets of Safety
8:04 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Sounds like maybe law enforcement isn't just targeting dispensaries indiscriminately. That's a good thing. I doubt that they would be just flying under the radar.. But who knows.. After all, law enforcement doesn't just work during the day.
Diana
9:53 am on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
It was code enforcement that forced the closure of these dispensaries not law enforcement I believe.
Diana
9:31 am on Tuesday, January 17, 2012
There are currently five dispensaries in operation on Grand Ave, they were all not shut down and ones that looked like they were are back in operation. The only ones closed are the two that were painted green????????????