"But the destruction of California has to stop..." and we are going to stop the destruction by breaking it in two! The name mentioned is boring, I would suggest Baja California but I think that is taken. Given the new state will have no viable source of it's own water we could just call it Desert or perhaps Norte Baja California. We could have a peacock as our state bird!

We have one of the largest and most powerful states in the Union. It sounds like a great bargaining chip to threaten to take all your marbles and go home, but this only works when you have all your marbles. Oops, sorry Supv. Stone, that came out wrong, what I meant to say was that Northern California has more natural resources than the south (or is that The South).

Jeff Stone must be a democrat, liberal and/or left leaning politician, because only the aforementioned individuals... are that ignorant.

Step one succede from the state, Step two succede from the US cuz they both have lost there minds

Have you heard about the state of Jefferson? If that occurrs I might move there; lots of water, mountains, trees & the Pacific Ocean. Oh yeah, clean air up there, too!

Jeff Stone can be classed with the other local conservatives in our county of Riverside. Lake Elsinore just passed an exemption to environmental law so that more development could take place when we can't sell the glut of homes already on the market. Whose best interests are being served and is your bottom line going to be improved? Not if more supply means lower existing home values. Check it out. It's happening at every council meeting.

This idea has been around for as long as I can remember. The first time I heard of it was in the late 60s. Let's concentrate on more important things, like creating jobs, cleaner air, building a better quality of life in the IE. Why do the Republicans always want to divide us? I say he should find another line of work.

Mexico already uses "Norte" and "Sur" for its Baja Califorinia states. Why not call the new state what we already call it. The State of Southern California.

How does a city exempt themselves from the law?

Just another grand-standing politician

What we should really do is get the corupt politicians out of office. Wake up people do you not remember that Jeff Stone's sister received a huge salary as a volunteer and used a county vehicle to do her volunteer work. The entire Riverside County Board of Supervisors are all bent on their own agendas. We need to vote them out next year and get new ones that really give a crap about us not what they want. Yes SB 89 needs to be revised and should be, but really a seperate state. This hole state is the worst state in the union when you compare numbers against all other 49 states in unemployement, new businesses, and so many others. REALLY WAKE THE F UP PEOPLE. We are letting California go bankrupt by providing so many things to others who don't even deserve it for freeeeeeeee. We should stop paying for all the illegals and give that money to the Cities that are mentioned in this article. I hate California and what we have become and how everyone in this nation is laughing at us. The only good thing if we became our own state is to change it to not have Califonia in the name at all!!!!! Oh but then we would still be paying for all the wandering useless south of our border comrads? that are sucking this state dry!!!

The State of California is to big and to populated for the idiots in Sacramento to handle correctly, most local City Councils are corrupt or on the take. Northern California is tired of paying tax dollars to support and care for all the illegals in Southern California and really could care less if we that live here have water and other resources or not. The Hispanic population is taking SO CAL back just like they said they would they are everywhere you go and look. Perhaps they should change the name of the new State to Mexifornia because that is truly what we have become and Sacramento and your local City Councils do not care.

The illegal alien situation is not the problem. California's largest industry has been agriculture and I can bet you that most people would not work all day outside picking crops, I have and it ain't much fun. The problem is all the give-a-ways to all those people that have the I want's, and all the give-a-ways by the politician's to buy votes. I could give you many example's of wasted money. One of them being a pension system that is totally unsustainable, also salaries that are totally out of line for what the job entails both public and private.

What i thought interesting is looking at the map of the counties listed LA, Ventura and other northward coastal counties are excuded. They have done alot to keep funds out of the other counties robbing what we should have had here.

Let's do it. California has been so mismanaged that businesses and individuals are leaving and have lost everything. I'm in.

Is this scary to anyone else? Riverside County is horribly corrupt. The last thing they need is more power. End government corruption... End our debt problem.

What do you mean Riverside County is corrupt. Look around its whole damn world. To many I wants out there. Viva la Revolucion.

I don't believe in God but I pray for an earthquake that would barrie East LA, Alhambra, and Glendale.(look at the dominating populations in these communities) This would create more jobs and lesson the congestion on all our freeways. We all know prayers aren't answered anyway....>

Remember folks, we are all just animals on this earth. The only thing that separates us from the rest of the animals on this earth is our ability to reason and speak. We are an evolving species. The human brain can conceive of many things. But I think the craziest thing that has run amuck is the human brains conception of God. Now we have a bunch of religious fanatics and politicians running around and logic has taken a back seat. We only get this one life. Don't be fooled into thinking there is a heaven or hell. It is all just a conception of the human brain!!

Heaven forbid, but should un incorporation of the listed cities actually occur, it's still something that, at a later time, those cities could go back to the drawing board and "fix" becoming "themselves" again. Easy? No, but doable, just as it was the first time around. But to actually divide California to where we are two separate states would be a permanent deal ... there'd be no going back. Such a decision would impact not just ALL of California today, both north and south, but all of our future generations to follow.

The historical events (both good and bad) that led to our becoming the 31st state in 1850 is an inherited legacy for all Californians, and changing that status should not be left to a few disgruntled politicians pushing for "division' to suit their own political agendas. If the same energy and resources that would be used towards "separation" were put to use in fixing some of the things that are wrong with California today, then perhaps tomorrows citizens would be a happier lot.

One California ... yesterday, today and tomorrow.

Thanks for all the comments. Now we need to cut the crap, the diversion, and the time wasting, and let our local politicians know that we are on to the old game of what I call the "rope a dope". That was the term for the strategy that Cassius Clay (Mohamed Ali) created back in the day when he beat his opponents, over and over again by wearing them down then out. This is the national conservative strategy now being orchestrated and practiced locally as well. The strategy is to keep us tied up on the ropes fighting for everything that we have already achieved, making us fear each other, question each others patriotism, disqualifying each other by imposing restrictive voter registration and union organization laws, by allowing large corporations, to out spend us in Washington, and locally through business and Chambers of Commerce to out message us.
They may think that they can beat us with their power and their dollars but I if we keep our eye on the ball, our message clear, fun, and directed to fellow men and women who only want decent jobs, education, safe and clean environments, we can all share this town and this planet happily, safely and fairly ever after.
Let's call it like we see it and spend our time and our passion on what will make life better for ourselves and future generations for both people and for business. Let's stop the anger and the fear and stand together, "UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE BEG"