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What To Do With Two Vacant LEUSD Schools?

What would you recommend be done with these two vacant school sites?

 

Two Lake Elsinore Unified School District properties remain vacant and written offers from potential buyers or lessees remain elusive.

Butterfield Elementary School on Grand Avenue in Lakeland Village has been shuttered since the end of the 2010 school year, and Jean Hayman Elementary School on Lemon Street in Wildomar has been closed for nearly four years.

The county has shown interest in the 17-acre Butterfield site and the 11-acre Hayman school, but offers have not been received, according to LEUSD spokesman Mark Dennis.

The City of Wildomar showed interest in the Jean Hayman campus last year, as did Sycamore Academy of Science and Cultural Art, but interest has waned in the site, which sits atop earthquake faults.

It’s unclear where the county might go with the properties, given the state’s decision to cut redevelopment agencies. Concerns about securing funding to complete remaining and future RDA projects in the county remain.

So what would you recommend be done with these two vacant school sites? If wishes came true, what would you like to see happen with these campuses?

Related Topics: Butterfield Elementary School, Jean Hayman Elementary School, Sell, Vacant, Wildomar, and lakeland village
What are your suggestions? Tell us in the comments.

DDMH

12:33 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Anyone interested in community organizing of retired, employed, unemployed underemployed,skilled and caring individuals networking to create an enterprise zone experience. It could be business and public leaders, teachers, artists, musicians, skilled trades people and on and on in collaboration to provide training and an entrepreneurial atmosphere to turn this community around. It would be a sort of "Stone Soup" project where out of what we perceive as nothing could be created something wonderful exciting and this community could turn itself around. Any one interested? I bet we could fill a few rooms in one of those buildings!

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Toni McAllister

4:06 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

People are coming up with interesting ideas on our Facebook page ... here are some of them that I copied and pasted:

Bring back Butterfield,my two older children went there its was way better than Machado where my two younger children go now.....

Bring them back or make into charter schools...

I think Jean Haymen should be brought back I went to that school when I was little from kindergarten to 5th grade and I love that school and I want my son to go there, but I know they wont bring Jean Haymen back!!

For it to become our church we have a very lil space and growing rather quickly...

Reopen butterfield. My second grade daughter is being sexually harrassed by a 13 year old boy over at lakeland village school k-8. Bad idea LEUSD, would any of the school board members like to hear that a 13 year old asked their 7 year old if she wanted to have sex with him?? So put our elementary kids back in an elementary school!!!

Casandra you need to bring this up at a school board meeting. That is intolerable and needs to be stopped immediately!!!

Homeless shelters/Rehab/Recovery Centers!!

Rosita, you have a great idea! Homeless shelters/Rehab & Recovery Centers!

Lake Elsinore officials need to get their head out of their asses and start making some right choices. Not to mention if 2 mine companies aren't enough you grant a 3rd one to open so all our children can suffer from silicosis.

Make a school of the arts

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Vivianne Thompson

4:18 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

How about a no-kill animal shelter and a low-cost clinic??..... there's a huge grass area that can also be made up to be a dog park. I've read a lot of people talk about bringing in a dog park to the area but funds are not available. Butterfield is already gated and the yard would be perfect for it. I also read an article stating Lake Elsinore-Wildomar have had the most animal turn ins of all cities in Riverside County. What about a pet therapy training facility? Dogs and cats have both shown to be great therapy for the elderly and sick, with a lot as large as Butterfield, so many things can be integrated on this site. So many lives can be saved/healed, both furry and not furry :)

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Martha L. Bridges

8:21 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

Hold on a minute. Taxpayers' money was used to purchase the land Butterfield is built on, and Taxpayers' money paid for the building, fencing and landscaping...all for a place to educate children. We didn't agree our money should be used for a dog park or animal shelter or anything else but an educational purpose. While all the suggestions here might be good ideas, they are not what we voted to be taxed for...

If they are not going to use Butterfield for an educational facility, then the land should be sold and the money put back into our educational system for direct improvement of the education we are offering students.

Rob

6:19 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Sell it to a private school company with the commitment to offer vouchers for all students in Lake Elsinore. Let the schools compete for students.

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maritza junCA

6:47 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Sycamore Academy of Science and Cultural Art

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Jennifer Greeley Walker

8:33 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Lake Elsinore needs a couple of charter schools!!!!

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American Girl

7:46 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

We have sycamore academy and another is being built off of Lake st

some guy

10:48 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

i second this, kids need to be in their own k-6 or 7-8 types school, kids should not have fear while attending school

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Ken Mayes

7:03 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

People need to get real. The fact that there is an earthquake fault running through the site precludes any government agency spending monies on the Jean Hayman site. With the money from private sources being tight there is little likelihood that any money would be made available to fund a private project. This building needs to be torn down, before it becomes an eyesore, and the land sold. If the school district insist on keeping the property then maybe they could transfer the 4-H project from the high school to the property after removing the buildings.

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Roberto

7:51 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

How about offering College acredited courses to students in the area? We don't have any 2 or 4 years Colleges in the area. I wonder if someone like like Phoenix University would be interested? possible trade school?

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Martha L. Bridges

8:09 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

Ken Mayes is right about getting real and dealing with the fact that money for either a public or private project is very unlikely in this economy.

I've heard via the grape vine that LEUSD is contemplating putting a major new bond issue on the November ballot to fund building new school facilities. If passed, that means everyone in Lake Elsinore and Wildomar will pay more taxes, which is the last thing we need in this recessionary economy. The quality of education is linked to class size and good teachers, not shiney new buildings.

While Jean Hayman sits on a fault, Butterfield doesn't and the land could be reused for its original purpose...an educational site of some sort.

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Katheryn

8:26 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

Martha it's true about voting on a bond on the November ballot. Lake Elsinore USD is a complete waste of taxpayer money and we need to rethink our Board and the Superintendent as well as his cronies at the district.

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Martha L. Bridges

4:45 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

The first step to improving control over what the LEUSD does or does not do is to switch to electing school board members by district. Only then can our interests be properly represented. That would also give voters the chance to remove ineffective members of the board.

I'm all for offering good public education, but a question whether this school board is doing the things needed to improve what our student receive. A greater percentage of money should be spent on good teachers rather than overstaffed administration.

American Girl

8:35 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

I say a satellite campus for one of the JC's. They never offer enough classes.

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Diana

9:57 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

I think a trade school or training facility to give locals a chance to learn a trade and put them to work and off welfare.

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Cindy Petersen

10:38 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

I love the idea of a trade school. I was raised in New York City where trade schools were a viable option for children not wishing to go the college route.

Ken Mayes

10:50 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

Trade school would be fine for the Butterfield property, but only if the children were taught to start with. Look at any study done by anyone not affiliated with education and you will see that only 25% of children graduating high school today is proficient in the subject matter and only 40% have a basic understanding. This leaves 60% of children scoring at below a basic level. You cannot expect a trade school to succeed with such poorly educated people. Maybe its time to dismantle the incompetent system we have today and start from scratch.

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American Girl

10:54 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

That would require getting rid of the teachers union! Perfect example at LAUSD right now! Mt daughter is a teacher and she refuses to join the teachers union!

Linda Ridenour

2:22 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

Please do not blame the teachers. They have to deal with overcrowding, students who do not speak English, lack of supplies.etc.
I would also like to suggest a senior center for Butterfield School. How about a park? The district is maintaining the landscaping now. There should not be an extra cost. Then the school could be used until the economy gets better.

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American Girl

5:24 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

School funds never get to the classroom, it gets spent at the district level on NOTHING! Its all waste. The teachers should be the highest paid in the district, but instead its administration and their bloated pensions that they never worked for!

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Martha L. Bridges

7:34 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Certainly there is justification for criticism of the present system and vast room for improvements in the way LEUSD is currently administered. However, it does our cause little good to make inaccurate blanket statements or exaggerated complaints. We get enough of that kind of thing from the school board.

It is not true that all the money is wasted or that pension plans are necessarily a bad thing. And, the teachers union is not some evil monster, but a necessary part of collective bargaining to ensure the teachers are well represented and fairly treated. Running our school system like an ongoing war of wills does nothing to improve education.

Plainly, most of the teachers are struggling to do the best job they can under very difficult circumstances. They are overworked and under paid, have to put up with large classes of rude and undisciplined students, and spend their own money on supplies which should be provided by the district as basic classroom equipment.

Good public education is the cornerstone of our democracy and absolutely necessary for us to compete in today’s global economy. We need to come together and do whatever is needed to improve the education we offer our children.

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Tonto

7:48 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Start using illegals to replace school staff, teachers, and administrators as is done in the private sector. Thats fair isin't it?

Roberto

11:33 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

The sole purpose of closing these two schools is to meet the "School impacted" requirement allowing for addtional funding and temporary buildings. Attempting to pass a school bond makes for a better case (first in line) to get fully funded by the state for new school facilities. It's cat and mouse game between the local district and the state. either way, we pay!

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