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When We Dare To Dream: YES On Z

The question today isn’t about just today. The real question we have to ask is, do we want parks in Wildomar? Do we start the dream and allow it to grow?

When we vote YES on Z we decide that, yes, Wildomar will be a city that has parks. By voting YES on Z the community has options. Each of our neighboring cities started with a small amount of parks and over 20 years have expanded their parks to include community centers, tennis courts and much, much more.

In a recent local blog a writer is astounded that a community would dare to dream of being a better place. Don’t try to comment on her opinion because she doesn’t want to hear it. Her opinion is the only opinion that matters.

As we get closer to the final vote I’m finding certain people will say pretty much anything to promote their view on this issue. Mostly this includes contradicting information, trying to re-focus the issue to something else or just create fear in the community. Here are some simple facts about what we get by voting YES on Z:

First off, the three parks we already have in Wildomar will be rejuvenated and reopened. Secondly, we get options and possibilities. By having a funding source to support our parks we can file for grants and endowments to expand our parks. As the city grows over time we can build new parks, and the community has a voice in their parks.

By voting Yes on Z we help the community, both now and in the future. It’s our responsibility to provide a starting line for our children, so when they have kids they can build on what we’ve created. The dream has to start somewhere.

Without a funding source we will lose our last remaining park and without a funding source we will not qualify for grants or endowments. No one will invest in our parks if we don’t.

The question today isn’t about other places. The question today isn’t about just today. The real question we have to ask is, do we want parks in our community or do we want to become “The city without any city parks?” For about $2 a month, the only real question is does Wildomar want parks?

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Martha Connelly November 03, 2012 at 10:58 PM
I've heard arguments both ways on this and I am more swayed to vote Yes on Z. Lovely post. Thank you.
Ken Mayes November 04, 2012 at 04:14 AM
With Wildomar at around 2/3 of its build-out population of 52,000 and a current Quimby Fee of $2,325 per unit if this was all homes (6,250 more homes) the city would generate $14,500,000.00 which would purchase 58 acres of land at the current projected price of $250,000.00 per acre. With the current development cost, using the counties last cost to develop the sports park in Temescal Canyon of $425,000.00 an acre, it would cost Wildomar $24,600,000.00 to build out this acreage. Assuming this was paid for by a parcel tax this would cost each parcel $65.00 per parcel for 20 years assuming a no interest loan. Then we add the maintenance cost using the current number of $25,000.00 per acre for a total of $1,800,000.00 (includes the the current 14 acres + the new 58 acres) for a parcel tax on 18750 parcels of $96.00 for a grand total of $161.00 in parcel taxes. At a total acreage of 72 acres we would still be 84 acres short of the Quimby goal of 3 acres per 1,000 citizens. Adding the shortage in increases the total by another $168.00 per year for a grand total of $329.00 per parcel per year. Wow we really can be like Temecula. This is assuming we have no fiasco's like Windsong were over 1,000 homes generated an in-kind donation of 2 acres with no parking. Speaking of grants and corporate donations had WFFP been properly established they would have been able to apply for these same types of funds.
Constant Comment November 04, 2012 at 04:37 AM
10 zillion divided by 2 acres per parcel per capita times 40 billion acres of projected land per unit dispersed unequally amongst the 4 quadrants of the built out populus that would generate somewhere in the neighborhood of the zoning cost & fiasco maintanence fees. Yes, that does include a new tax on quimby down under for a grand total of $28 per year. Please donate to the WWF & vote yes on Measure Z! }~)
Balance November 04, 2012 at 04:40 AM
If I follow you Math correctly, you didn't carry the 1.
Constant Comment November 04, 2012 at 04:45 AM
Ooops! My bad! }~)
Ray A November 04, 2012 at 03:57 PM
Thank you John for the time and energy you have dedicated to this effort. We have one more day to get out the vote and approve Measure Z. We have worked hard to persuade our friends and neighbors to get out and vote to save our parks. The stakes are huge. We have millions of dollars invested in our parks that will completely go to waste if we fail to pass this measure. Our kids, our families, our community will lose these invaluable assets for the want of $28.00 a year tax per parcel. Our little park in Windsong Park isn't very big, but it provided a beautiful place for our families to have picnics, for our kids to play, a cool basketball court, and for the neighbors to meet up. Don't make the kids play in the streets and in the ditches. We have parks and we have an opportunity to save and revive them. Please vote yes on Measure Z.
Ken Mayes November 04, 2012 at 06:29 PM
Ray The people that live around Windsong Park had the opportunity to start a non-profit to maintain that park just like the dog owners had the opportunity to maintain Heritage Regency Park but they chose not to.
Ken November 04, 2012 at 09:23 PM
Closenthe parks, Stop raising taxes, And Boot Out the Money Spending Fools running this almost bankrupt city.
The Teller of Truth November 04, 2012 at 09:47 PM
Way to make life BETTER there Ken!
concerned citizen November 05, 2012 at 04:11 PM
The city needs to spend more time banning pitbulls (monsters!) instead of trying to worry about silly parks.
Ken Mayes November 05, 2012 at 06:16 PM
Who is going to enforce that ban, surely not animal control when they don't have the foggiest idea how many dogs are in town. And Why? Since 1975 thirty different breeds of dogs have been responsible for fatal attacks.
justme November 06, 2012 at 01:52 AM
I just went over the props and measure z with my first time voter husband and got to the end and was reading pros and cons of measure z. I was reading this obnoxious view on no on measure z and couldnt even get thru the whole thing, looked to see who the twit was that wrote it and started busting a gut laughing when i saw martha's name. Was not surprised in the least. People who are against measure z should sue her for the damage she has done to their campaign! How can anyone take her rebuttal seriously! To begin it with 'The taxman cometh!' I mean really? I thought she was educated?
The Teller of Truth November 06, 2012 at 02:26 AM
@Justme, whatever gave you the idea that she was educated? If you want a really good laugh, click on her name & go to her long form posts. She can't even post a comment without re doing it, sometimes three times! The simple words that she had to spell check, will give you a clearer picture of just how educated this hypocrite is! YEZ ON MEAZURE Z!
Ken November 06, 2012 at 09:18 PM
Oh ya we need another park so these wonderfull kids have some place new and costly to spray paint their graffeti and gang symbols. I'd rather pay the $28 a year for classes for parents on the proper way to raise their kids to respect other peoples property.
Ken November 06, 2012 at 09:27 PM
Why put a forced tax on tax payers that don't want another park? What we should do is make it a optional issue. If you want another park for your kids to hang out in then you pay for it by requesting they raise YOUR property tax. I wonder how many of you pro Z measure people would be willing to pay for it instead of trying to get everyone else to pay for your kids entertainment ???
Constant Comment November 06, 2012 at 09:33 PM
@ Ken, FYI ..."wonderfull' does not have two LLLLLLS! "Graffeti" well that isn't even a word. BTW....how do you spell curmudgeon, coot, codger, geezer, fossil, fart & fogie? You do realize that campaigning for this, one way or another, is pretty much over? You may return now to just kicking your dog! Have a good one now.....see ya at the park! }~)
Ken Mayes November 06, 2012 at 10:02 PM
The already tried something similiar with a non-profit and its 2,000 @ $28 campaign, they show about 33 people on their website that were willing to pony up.
Constant Comment November 06, 2012 at 10:08 PM
Either way Ken its over....let it go......}~0
Martha L. Bridges November 25, 2012 at 08:02 PM
As the Registrar of Voters is due to certify the election results on Monday, 11/26/12, the election itself may well be over, but the issues surrounding the parks will be with us for a long, long time. The campaign for Measure “Z” raised far more questions than it answered. The door to how Measure “Z” was passed will be wide open to questions of inappropriate behavior and disputed and potentially illegal use of our taxpayers’ money. In addition, it is clear that many people were enticed into voting for the new tax on the basis of implied promises, highly emotional appeals and false hopes. They will be bitterly disappointed when it becomes clear that they have simply paved the way for more and larger tax measures.
Martha L. Bridges November 25, 2012 at 08:06 PM
Tax supporters are delusional if they think that the results of this election mean the issues are over and that people will simply let go of the on-going concerns.
Anon November 25, 2012 at 08:10 PM
Martha thats how I feel when democrats get elected! Join the club!
Constant Comment November 25, 2012 at 10:47 PM
Either way Marfa...it's over....let it go! There there, its ok. }~)
Constant Comment November 25, 2012 at 10:53 PM
Try and be a gracious LOSER Marfa! The only inappropriate behavior has been from you! Don't worry we won't be suing you....this year anyway! And I promise that no one will be as "bitterly disappointed" as you are deary! }~)
Constant Comment November 25, 2012 at 11:11 PM
Thats so sweet that you are still trolling for at least one friend. Might I remind you though, that Marfa already called you annoying. Might I suggest that you go to the Twinkies thread & see if you can't join the new group that Vince is assembling. 'IF' he lets you join, its worth a try! Good luck there bunky! }~)
Martha L. Bridges November 26, 2012 at 02:33 PM
Thanks LER, it's not necesary for thinking people to always agree on everything. To do so would be like those that blindly follow one line of reasoning or political point of view without being willing to examine new or conflicting ideas and information. We have numerous comments here on the Patch that demonstrat that kind of senseless thought and behavior. I am heartened to see that as those people come and go, more thoughtful people seem to come forward. Each of us need to confront corruption and wrongdoing in our own way.
Constant Comment November 26, 2012 at 08:14 PM
Ah Marfa corruption buster, you need to get a life before you even think about trying to save the world! You are nothing but a joke. We wonder why you continue to stay at a place where you are SO unwelcome? }~0
Constant Comment November 26, 2012 at 08:22 PM
Yeah, Marf, keep up your incessant blathering. Its so easy to get anything passed when you open up your yap. Even your former buddy Ken told you that you do more harm than good for your community. We've read from several bloggers that took the time to write; that although they might not have known what 'a measure' was all about, they would vote opposite of ANYTHING that Marfa was advocating. (And that was just from a few that took the time to write.) Think about all the other detriment that you've caused, that we're not even aware of? Senseless marfa..... }~0
Constant Comment November 26, 2012 at 08:23 PM
Ah Marfa corruption buster, you need to get a life before you even think about trying to save the world! You are nothing but a joke. We wonder why you continue to stay at a place where you are SO unwelcome? }~0

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