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Measure “D” Is About TAXES, Not Personalities

Measure “D” is About TAXES. Voters need to know that the council's ALL OR NOTHING attitude is not acceptable. Options for funding the parks are available.

Wildomar’s voters have been provided with a poorly conceived new tax proposal, and a small minority of vocal tax supporters are doing their utmost to hard sell it to cash-strapped Wildomar citizens. 

Despite what you read about parks and people and all sorts of superfluous emotional stuff, Measure “D” is about RAISING OUR TAXES.

Please consider these facts about Measure “D”, including some important details tax supporters have left out of their articles, campaign materials, and virulent blogs!  Wildomar’s voters need and deserve to have the facts, not half truths, and use their heads instead of emotions, when voting on June 7th

The old, illegal parks maintenance tax was a flat $28 per parcel; raised from only about half of Wildomar’s parcels. The proposed NEW tax would be levied on nearly every Wildomar parcel, both commercial and residential, almost DOUBLING the number of parcels and the amount of revenue. Old tax = about $173,000 in current 2010-2011 budget year, NEW tax = about $350,000 to $365,000.

This is why it is fair and accurate to call Measure “D” a NEW, DOUBLE TAX.  It's not just a replacement tax as you may have been told.  It calls for using a completely different method of taxation – A MELLO-ROOS based district, which “…encompasses all land within the boundaries of the city…” Thousand of new parcels will be taxed, and substantially more revenue will flow into city coffers. 

Wildomar’s stressed families will have to pay this new tax at a time when many of them are losing jobs, having pensions and income cut, and being forced from their homes by foreclosure.  Our businesses will have to pay too – including those fighting to keep their doors open.  If you are looking for proof of our distressed economy, just look around at Wildomar’s neighborhoods and shopping centers.

While we need to keep at least our biggest park open, this is not the time to increase taxes or to expand the city’s nice but non-essential entertainment and recreational programs.  Many people are struggling, and it is ludicrous to ask them to pay for someone else’s entertainment when they may not be able to afford their own necessities.

Measure “D” would authorize levy of a special tax, “The maximum tax rate would be $28.00 per year …subject to adjustment each year for inflation.”  And, you can all guess what that means in the long run with the skyrocketing costs of oil, gas and food. If you need validation, just read the IMPARTIAL ANALYSIS in your sample ballot.

Worse yet, Measure “D” would create a tax district using the dreadful MELLO-ROOS law, and Wildomar would become ONE HUGE MELLO-ROOS DISTRICT for forever…likely paving the way for multi-million dollar bond issue(s) to be brought forward.

 That is what the city council originally proposed and passed a resolution for, a $5,000.000 bond which was withdrawn, and that is what this council really wants in the future.  Tax supporters aren't telling you this, so you would be wise to ask yourselves what else they are leaving out.

For more information on the many drawbacks of the dangerous MELLO-ROOS CFD check out www.StopTheMoneyGrab.com

Wildomar deserves to have open parks, but Measure “D” is not a good proposal.  There truly are other, better options for funding parks maintenance which the council and their Blue Ribbon Committee refused to consider.  Telling voters there aren’t options is pure nonsense.  This all or nothing approach of the city council is highly irresponsible, and has divided the community unnecessarily.

Measure "D" is another one of the Wildomar city council's rushed decisions which was pushed forward hastily to meet the deadline for submitting Ballot Measures for the June 7th election. It is a poor, needlessly complex and expensive tax proposal which will be costly to administer. There are better ways to keep our parks open, and voters should tell the council to find them by defeating Measure “D” on June 7th.  

Remember your vote does count.  This Election may be decided by a handful of votes. So don’t stay home and let others decide this important issue for you. 

VOTE NO ON MEASURE “D” – VOTE NO ON A MELLO-ROOS TAX DISTRICT

Kailee's LemonAID May 16, 2011 at 04:00 am
Oh and Steve, I'm sure Tracy has already donated to the city much much more than $28 for YOU and her. =) She is one who loves her city and all that it stands for. If you loved your city you would stand up for it too. Rather than shoot it down. Just saying and all. I'm not one to put anyone down, but throwing such negitive words out there makes me wonder about you as a person and how much you care about our community.
Kailee's LemonAID May 16, 2011 at 04:01 am
Every city NEEDS parks. It is such a neccessity regardless of wether you use them or not. Do your research, check out the statistics of cities with and without parks and tell me which ones are struggling and which ones are striving. I can guarantee without a doubt that cities with parks are persevering and creating such a better setting for any community. I just do not quite understand how any person can take that away from the children of our future. Who would want to trash our city with tagging, trash, looting and distruction. I know for a fact that closing our parks would create all of this plus more. I lived here when parks were closed. It was NOT pretty sight. Our parks were over-grown, tagged and destroyed. What type of person or business would want to open up in a city that looks worn out, tagged and destroyed??? If you have better options to keep our parks open STEVE, please do tell!!! and IF by chance this is Steve B - the man who sued the city and caused all of this in the first place, Don't you have a little girl???? Do you not ever take her to the parks???? Does she not play any sports? How sad for her if she doesn't.
Kailee's LemonAID May 16, 2011 at 04:06 am
And Steve, I try NOT to judge people, but I cannot help but to think you are a selfish person. I would love to sit down and talk to you in person. I want to understand where you are comming from. I give everyone the benifit of the doubt and respect everyones opinions, but I would LOVE to hear yours in person. Steve B, if this is you please contact me as my daughter actually wrote you a letter, knowing that you were the person who got the city in this horrible situation in the first place. She wrote the sweetest letter to you, even though you took away our park funding. I would love to get her letter to you Steve B., if this is you.
Laura May 16, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Couldn't agree with you more, Gene. I've already mailed my ballot in, and market NO for Measure D.
Martha L. Bridges May 16, 2011 at 03:23 pm
Kailee,
Actually, I have stated my thoughts on other options to the city staff and council in the hopes of being helpful to my city, by delivering a detailed 3-page list of options/suggestions to Assistant City Manager, Gary Nordquist and the council months ago. And, Kailee, I voted for the original parks tax, and have paid it for all four years - even though I thought it WAS flawed and unfair. Should Measure "D" fail, as it looks might happen, I would be happy to provide them to a new committee for consideration. Measure "D" is really not about parks, it is about NEW HIGHER TAXES and a new method of taxation call MELLO-ROOS based district. Tax supporters continue to scare the good people of Wildomar by saying parks will close, in an efford to get this very bad method of taxation past. This is a NEW TAX as I stated in my article and I suggest you re-read it again. Also Wildomar didn't pay the costs of the lawsuit over the old tax. It was the County of Riverside that was suited, and had the burden and expense of defending the poorly conceived, illegal tax. Our city council has know for years that the courts might declare the old tax illegal and lose the parks funding. They had the opportunity to plan for losing the funding, but didn't plan ahead. Measure "D" is MELLO-ROOS based, and that's a very bad method of taxation. Readers, get the facts and VOTE NO on Measure "D".
Tina Tyra May 16, 2011 at 03:34 pm
Measure D is about saving the Parks, not taxes as Martha would have everyone believe. She is a typical Chicken Little running about all panicked clucking, "The sky is falling". All over a $28.00 tax that we have all paid for years now. I've never read so much drivel in my life and she can ramble on and on about things that don't have a factual basis. Our city council members, after examining all of the options, have all agreed that this is the best solution. We voted for them for a reason and Martha did not get elected. She continues to try to derail our city out of bitterness. If she succeeds in closing our parks, I propose we all exercise our right to free speech and picket her neighborhood.
Tracy Lobo May 16, 2011 at 04:35 pm
I agree with you Tina , she yells about all the scare tactics, disregarding her own, then she complains about the the emotions that we have in our messages, and she again disregards her own, Now entering Martha's comment to another-> ( how narrow minded and out-of-touch you are). I wonder if she has ever heard of ROSE COLORED GLASSES, she might want to take her's off. She disagreed with the first parks tax, she disagrees with this tax parks , it's like a soap opera, and I will speak only for myself, knowing others agree with me that she /they won't be done with this STUFF after the parks issue .It won't be very long before the soap opera is on again.... MESSED UP. Please don't be fooled by these few. Help keep our Community parks open VOTE YES on measure D. On June 7th.
Martha L. Bridges May 16, 2011 at 05:23 pm
Dear Readers,
If you have questions related to my article or the issues, I am happy to answer them. However, many comments to this blog have become repetitive and uncivil personal attacks as opposed to useful debate. Even I have given into temptation to respond sharply. It hard not to...in the face of CONSTANT BAITING from tax supporters like Tina and Tracy! What we have here are a handful of virulent tax supporters blogging over and over again, often with all manner of off subject personal stuff that has nothing to do with the questions surrounding Measure "D". It is simply meant to distract readers and voters' attention away from the real issues. Tax supporters are just asking questions that they hope will imply opponents are doing something wrong. Like the one below regarding spending reports. The FPPC requires both sides to report, and the city is required to report on how they spend the money people donated to the city for parks. So the questions posed by Doug A below are just an attempt to imply that opponents might be doing something wrong. They are meant to taunt and bait. For for these reasons, and in support of civility, I will no longer be responding to them under this blog
Tracy Lobo May 16, 2011 at 05:40 pm
Martha,
Do you ever get tired of justifying your own poor behavior!!! this comment by Martha-> (Even I have given into temptation to respond sharply), does that make it all better for you. And again I ask you, please don't be fooled by these two. Help keep our Community parks open VOTE YES on measure D. On June 7th.
John Lloyd May 16, 2011 at 05:42 pm
Gene,
If your buget has been affected by these economic times to the point where you just can't afford the 54 cents each week, that's a tough place to be. Most of the people I've met working with H.O.P.E. doing food distribution that are at that level of financial need don't own their own homes so they won't be paying this property tax. Being a property owner in a community does have some responsibilities. What happens within the community effects your property values, and in some cases what you do on your property effects your neighbors. Under your circumstances I understand your desire to reduce personal cost, even if it is harmful to the community at large, as you just don't have the funds. I can only hope the vast majority of the comunity is not that financially restricted and can make the 54 cent a week investment in higher having property values, better community and a great place for families to go together.
Tina Tyra May 16, 2011 at 06:04 pm
Doug, I urge you to call the FPPC and report that on their Toll Free "tip line" at 800-561-1861. Let's get to the bottom of it and expose them.
Tina Tyra May 16, 2011 at 06:10 pm
Tracy, Martha thinks she's above it all. She can do no wrong. She has changed my name and made fun of it and then claims people are attacking "her". She's not big enough to apologize for a such a vile action. She has made many enemies and she continues her caustic vitriol. She does so many posts because she doesn't have many supporters. She believes the louder she barks, the bigger she seems. As one of her own commented, "You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig".
Tina Tyra May 16, 2011 at 06:40 pm
Yes, it's interesting that Martha continues to bark about transparency when the budget has been available for her (and everyone) to view, and yet the opponents are not transparent by any means and refuse to file the required statements. If it quacks like a duck....
Kristan Lloyd May 16, 2011 at 10:23 pm
This is about re-establishing a tax to keep the parks open. The revenue to keep the parks open was never in the city budget. In 2006 we had a separate vote to open 3 parks in Wildomar. The County used RDA funds to rebuild the parks at $7 Million+. The restoration was huge. The parks have been in use and I see the Windsong park filled with children, families and filled with a sense of community. The revenue stream was taken away when Steve Beutz filed a lawsuit and the city does not have the money in the budget because we had a separate fund already in place. We are restoring funding that was taken away. The city has no surplus. They have an emergency account with 10% reserve from the budget that is required by law. I think last year the city had $17.00 at the end of the year and a very lean budget. I remember during election season the importance of parks was always talked about and agreed by those running that it was of utmost importance to keep them open. If you want parks, stand behind the efforts to keep them open and Vote YES on "D".
Martha L. Bridges May 17, 2011 at 05:08 am
Kristan,
There are two budget lines for the parks in Wildomar's budget. One for maintenance which we voted on in 2006, and one for entertainment and recreation programs which we had no say in approving. It is true that some $7,000. to $8,000,000 of RDA funds where used to refurbishing of the parks. Some people have a real problem with the use of RDA funds for this project as they feel they were illegally used for this purpose - because the project was completely outside of the RDA district rather than used for legal uses on projects WITHIN the district. I would suggest to readers that no individuals were responsible for the original tax funding to be lost or refunded. The courts, ACTING ON THE ESTABLISHED LAW, decided that the OLD tax assessment was flawed and illegal. While the city's records many not reflect any surplus, there are things funded in the budget that are far less important or essential than keeping out parks open. The city council and staff are understandably reluctant to make cuts and shift funds around to maintain our parks. The money in the entertainment and recreations programs is nearly enought to maintain the parks and keep them open. This is all about defining priorities. At the heart of all these disputes is the question about whether Wildomar is conducting the city's business according to the law. The end doesn't justify the means. We need to do things right and properly. VOTE NO on Measure "D". It is not a good solution.
Tracy Lobo May 17, 2011 at 11:25 am
7:14am on Tuesday, May 17, 2011
Martha L. Bridges 1:23pm on Monday, May 16, 2011 Dear Readers, For for these reasons, and in support of civility, I will no longer be responding to them under this blog <-These where your words yesterday! Martha you are NEVER all that TRUTHFUL! This is someone that always has to have the last word no matter what, let's all see if she can resist .:))
Tracy Lobo May 17, 2011 at 01:07 pm
Another GREAT informational site ALL Wildomar Lots of information Now and Passed Enjoy.
http://www.wildomarvoice.com/archives.asp?CAT=2
Tina Tyra May 17, 2011 at 04:23 pm
Community pools and parks like those in the farm are not the city parks everyone is voting on. The Farm doesn't have to share. Why do you want to make them think that? Sounds like another deceptive practice. The existing parks don't "mainly serve the sports leagues". Sure, the kids use the parks for their sports, but they are also used for special olympics, community events like the Rotary BBQ (which, incidentally supports the community with proceeds), movies in the park, teen events, and many other family centered activities. But you know that. You are just trying to deceive. You don't make sense. If someone has had a foreclosure, they aren't paying taxes to support the parks because they aren't property owners. And your statement "before you demand more money from taxpayers, you should ask them if they want and would use these new programs". Well, Martha, that's exactly what the special election is doing - asking the voters. No one is demanding anything. It's like you're purposely trying to skew the facts. Where is the 2.8? Where are Steve's reports that have not been filed? Who is behind the "no" campaign, besides you and Steve? What are you hiding? People in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones...
Tina Tyra May 17, 2011 at 04:30 pm
LOL Tracy, you hit the nail on the head. My neighborhood is voting YES on parks.
gary andre May 17, 2011 at 07:19 pm
Wildomar Parks
As a resident of Wildomar for 21 years, let us look back to the years when our Parks were closed. At our monthly MAC meeting, people would stand up and complain about what our kids were doing wrong in the neighborhoods. Let us look back at the complaints: Remember the loud Mini-Motorcycles? The loud Motorized Skateboards with handles ? When homes were vandalized? The kids were playing ball in the streets and running thru peoples yards? Home values plummeted 10 to 15%, and will again if parks close. Our Kids are our most important resource of the future for our Community. For a little over 7-1/2 cents a day to save our Parks is it worth going thru everything again? With a down turn in the market are you willing to lose another 10 to 15% on your house value? Lets take a $270,000 house and remove 10% if the parks close, that’s $27,000 at 15% is $40,500. Let’s divide $27,000 by $28.00 yearly cost for parks. You would pay for parks for 964 years. At $40,500, you would pay for parks for 1446 years. Is it worth closing parks, No! The numbers show it’s cheaper to pay 71/2 cents a day and keep the parks open. Let’s build a City we can all be proud of. Vote Yes on Parks Please Note: Marna O’Brien park was approved as a National Forest Staging area for our Trails. Who’s Chairman of the BMUT Trail Committee? Guess! Gary Andre
Tina Tyra May 17, 2011 at 07:26 pm
Very well said, Gary.
Hillary May 18, 2011 at 02:27 am
I also read the impartial information on the ballot that came in the mail. I would like to stop hearing complaining, and a resolution to the problem. The only resolution I have come across is to vote yes on measure "D" to restore the funding for the parks.I also read that it is not actually called mello-roos, so that is the wrong wording. If someone gave me an answer as to how the parks could stay open without voting for measure "D" I would gladly vote no and push for the other way to keep the parks open.
I am not a homeowner/parcelowner, or double parcelowner so I will not be taxed, but I will vote, and this forum gives me no new information to sway my vote, it just seems like banter, back and forth.
Tracy Lobo May 18, 2011 at 11:20 am
http://www.wildomarvoice.com/political_issues.asp
There is the Video, speakers, City council meetings, and the opponents speaking. Scroll down this link there is lots of information on what it took to go through the process, for our Parks.
Tracy Lobo May 18, 2011 at 02:52 pm
Here you go, the budget for the City of Wildomar 2011=2012 MEETING for all to attend..There hiding what?? Again I ask please Vote YES on measure D to keep our parks open. Fallow the link for date, time, location...
http://wildomarvoice.com/CalView.asp?ID=2149 June 7th Vote Yes on D.
Tina Tyra May 18, 2011 at 03:19 pm
Hillary: First, the information on the voter guide is not impartial. You can't rebut a rebuttal, so Steve has taken advantage of that. The parks can't stay open without voting YES on Measure D. There is simply no funding for it and the special election is to restore funding that we are all used to paying in our taxes already. It's not a new tax, just structured differently because Steve Beutz did not like the way it was structured before. I wonder how much money has been thrown at their campaign to vote no. How could that have helped save our parks? They aren't interested in a solution and never come to the table with any ideas, other than to vote no and, therefore, close the parks. Martha says she wants parks one week and the next she says she has no use for them. It's back and forth. The bottom line is, no on D means no parks.
Kristan Lloyd May 18, 2011 at 04:01 pm
Those who believe we have money for parks, I urge you to come to this meeting to see the city budget yourself. The City of Wildomar is hosting a Budget Workshop for residents to give input regarding the 2011/12 Budget.
Council Chambers Tuesday, May 24 6:30pm. 23873 Clinton Keith Road RSVP - Seating is Limited. Gary Nordquist at gnordquist@cityofwildomar.org or 951.677.7751.
Kristan Lloyd May 18, 2011 at 04:28 pm
There's nothing to be done about how the county spent the money to refurbish our parks. It's in the past. Let's talk about the future. The city is inviting everyone to attend the budget workshop and your comments regarding the money in the entertainment and recreation programs is definitely not even a 10th of what it costs to keep the parks maintained. I hope to see you on Tuesday.
Those who believe we have money for parks, I urge you to come to this meeting to see the city budget yourself. The City of Wildomar is hosting a Budget Workshop for residents to give input regarding the 2011/12 Budget. Council Chambers Tuesday, May 24 6:30pm. 23873 Clinton Keith Road RSVP - Seating is Limited. Gary Nordquist at gnordquist@cityofwildomar.org or 951.677.7751.
Tina Tyra May 18, 2011 at 05:25 pm
Just an FYI - Steve hasn't turned in the 460 to show who is contributing to the campaign, which is required. The deadline was 10 days ago. He has, in error, placed into the voter guide as a rebuttal the figure of 2.8 million in reserves that he states the city has. Maybe that's where they get the "double tax" that Martha is talking about...by doubling the amount the city has in reserves. At any rate, this will all be investigated by the FPPC, so stay tuned. I wonder -- if we have to have another election, will Steve Beutz be responsible for paying for it?
michael May 19, 2011 at 03:12 am
"That's like the existing parks programs that mainly serve the sports leagues at every taxpayer's expense" martha do you have any idea how much people pay to put their kids through sports? are you serious? leagues are not the only people who use the parks people are there everyday riding bikes, playing on the play gym, walking, taking their dogs, etc and thats only one of our parks, you need to get a reality check! u say that we who do support yes on D make personal attacks, but you do the same thing, now is that a little bit of hypocracy? we hide behind the kids, we use emotional appeal blah blah blah blah blah! uhm hello why is mello roos capitalized in alomst everything you post? why do you always say how much people are strapped for cash? now correct me if im wrong but you do the same thing! cant handle the heat get out of the kitchen! i know plenty of people who are on fixed incomes who would gladly pay 28$ a year!!! you want me to appeal to peoples emotions how about i chain myself up to the marna O'brien park!
amy June 8, 2011 at 08:50 pm
screw the parks, the meth heads like to sit in them at night, NO TAXES!!! we moved away from o.c. to be in a place where we dont have to pay stupid taxes... 28.00 today 128.00 tomorrow, this is a flood gate waiting to be opened... this house and we have 4 voters here have ALL voted NO!!!!!

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