DUI Checkpoint Scheduled In Lake Elsinore

“Officers will be contacting drivers passing through the checkpoint for signs of alcohol and/or drug impairment."

Deputies from the Lake Elsinore Police Department will be conducting a DUI/driver’s license checkpoint within city limits Saturday, but the location has not been disclosed.

“Officers will be contacting drivers passing through the checkpoint for signs of alcohol and/or drug impairment. Officers will also check for proper licensing and will strive to delay motorists only momentarily,” said Sgt. Peter Giannakakos of the Lake Elsinore Police Department.

Drivers caught driving impaired can expect jail, license suspension, and insurance increases, as well as fines, fees, DUI classes, and other expenses that can total more than $10,000, Giannakakos explained.

“DUI checkpoints are a proven enforcement tool effective in reducing the number of persons killed and injured in alcohol-involved crashes. Research shows that crashes involving alcohol drop by an average of 20 percent when well-publicized checkpoints are conducted often enough,” Giannakakos said.

Over the past three years, the Lake Elsinore Police Department investigated 58 DUI collisions in which 71 persons were injured and six were killed, Giannakakos added.

Christopher J. Murphy, director of the California Office of Traffic Safety, said deaths caused by drunk and/or drug-impaired drivers are going down in California.

“But that still means that hundreds of our friends, family and co-workers are killed each year, along with tens of thousands who are seriously injured,” Murphy stressed. “We must all continue to work together to bring an end to these tragedies. If you see a drunk driver, call 9-1-1."

Funding for Saturday’s checkpoint is provided to the Lake Elsinore Police Department by a grant from the California Office of Traffic Safety through the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Giannakakos said.

Paul August 26, 2012 at 06:11 AM
@Brittnay. I was not literally calling you a jailhouse lawyer. It is a term that is used in refrence to people who try to quote the law when they are not properly informed. An example is an inmate who says that law enforcement is breaking the law or violating someone's rights without knowing what they are talking about.
Matt August 26, 2012 at 04:35 PM
Let me start by saying I NEVER DRINK AND DRIVE.....EVER! I deplore people who do and I feel they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Fourth amendment... "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." Warrantless Searches: The Supreme Court has held that searches and arrests can be performed without a warrant under some circumstances. Most notably, arrests and searches can be performed if the officer personally witnesses the suspect committing a misdemeanor, or has reasonable cause to believe that the suspect has committed a specific, documented felony. continued...
Matt August 26, 2012 at 04:35 PM
I feel these checkpoints violate the fourth amendment. The law says the police must provide an alternative route or a turn around point prior to the checkpoint. In many cases they do but station an officer there to pull over cars that choose to turn around. This is a touchy subject and they get away with this by saying they are targeting drunk drivers. Look at the results usually printed the next day. More people are ticketed and arrested for other things more than DUI. I get it, if you don't have your sh*t together then you don't need to drive. But these checkpoints I feel are unconstitutional. Just my humble opinion....
Hoopmom August 26, 2012 at 07:33 PM
Probable cause...In order to arrest you for a California DUI under either Vehicle Code 23152a VC driving under the influence or Vehicle Code 23152b VC driving with a BAC of 0.08% or greater, an officer must have probable cause to do so. "Probable cause" means a reasonable belief that criminal activity (in this case, drunk driving) is or was taking place. I don't mind being stopped because I have nothing to hide. The four people that they stopped should be thankful that they were stopped before they killed someone. If you have never had a family member serious injured or killed by a drunk driver then you are worried about someone's "rights." How about my right to not get killed by a drunk driver?
tweetledee August 27, 2012 at 03:19 AM
look at this cop,he eats too many donuts,this check point thing is just a way for cops to get overtime money for more donuts,
Matt August 27, 2012 at 03:23 AM
Silly pointless comments do nothing to further the conversation.
kms August 27, 2012 at 03:41 AM
Call a cab! No more excuses.
brittany August 27, 2012 at 04:02 AM
@matt I totally agree with you.. These checkpoint would be a great idea if it didnt feel like it violates our rights... I have no provlem going through them because i have nothing to hide but i really feel like this is just a way for our city/ county to make money
tweetledee August 27, 2012 at 02:39 PM
Looks like most of you are ok with them stepping on your rights,Im not because if you let them take this right and bend it then that one pretty soon you have nothing left that looks like the constitutional protections that our fore fathers fought and died for, Im not for them crossing the line on any of my rights as a U.S. citizen,These things are simply a unwarranted seizure of your vehicle and a illegal unwarranted search of ones property..
tweetledee August 27, 2012 at 03:11 PM
Also the way they are getting around the constitutional protections is they set up at a point where you can go right or left ahead of the actual checkpoint and turn and go a different way around the checkpoint,so they can say its voluntary if you go throught the check point,but they are also suppose to have a sign warning you of the checkpoint just ahead of it but rarely do i see one, I always go around them..
Timber August 28, 2012 at 02:46 AM
Going around them is your Right of Liberty to exercise. What is most offensive to me is when others insult or chastise those that choose to exercise their Right. Checkpoints are voluntary, no one is required to submit to suspicion-less roadblocks. There is a remedy for the short notice warning sign used by these "honest" officers. I go out and help them provide advanced warning to motorists before they reach the point of no return, 4 to 6 hours worth of warning. It is quite effective. Have you considered doing the same?
Matt August 28, 2012 at 02:51 AM
They usually have a place to turn around. They always have an officer stationed at the turn around and he will pull you over. He is instructed to.
big aunt harry mary August 28, 2012 at 05:57 AM
there no amendment or any part of the constitution that says its ok to break the law not is it mentioned that "surprise check points" have to be disclosed. it your right to do as you please as long as it does not affect others or hurt someone else.... there would be no point in the check points if they were disclosed ahead of time.. kinda of like planning to get a ticket.....
big aunt harry mary August 28, 2012 at 06:01 AM
did you have to sit in the check point and now youre pissed ? wait till YOU NEED that cop... then we'll see who's making genius comments.....
big aunt harry mary August 28, 2012 at 06:09 AM
these are all the same old arguments and statements and opinions that come up after every posted story about these check points... its really simple-- if youre not drunk or high, not hiding anything you shouldnt have, didnt do anything wrong, HAVE A VALID LICENSE AND INSURANCE, and your car is not a steaming pile of --you get the idea, these should only be a minor delay on your way out or, just going home... driving is a privilege--not a right... pretty easy to figure out...
Edison Carter August 28, 2012 at 06:33 AM
Sorry, minor delay? They had one in front of my place one night, I didn't know. I was hungry and going to get food, 15 minutes to pass and 15 on the way back... a 4 minute trip lasted 40 minutes. I just question if all those Officers were on patrol would they catch more drunk drivers.
Edison Carter August 28, 2012 at 06:38 AM
@Uncle Fester:" and your car is not a steaming pile of --" Sorry, finances and life situations judge the car I drive ATM. I would rather drive the Lamborghini.
big aunt harry mary August 28, 2012 at 06:41 AM
unless you give them a reason, they cant just search your car.... THAT IS A VIOLATION OF YOUR RIGHTS. driving impaired, is a violation of MY RIGHTS ! i have to play by the rules so should they... if they get caught, tuff beans for them... again, driving is NOT A RIGHT !
big aunt harry mary August 28, 2012 at 07:17 AM
im very aware they can become annoying. most move pretty well... and as far as the car thing, i understand not everyone can afford a class "a" ride too.. it was a generalization of the issues why they grab some cars.. some really have no business on the road... and yes, ive a few of them too.... mine has 300,000 on it and luckly, still passes smog or ide be screwed too... sorry about the cold food thing.. i bet that sucked...
big aunt harry mary August 28, 2012 at 07:22 AM
i get more annoyed with cal trans doing heavy repairs during rush hours... when its far safer to be out at night with less traffic and far less irritated drivers trying to blast thru the traffic like idiots... in all actuality, there is as many day time drunks on the road as there is at night.... all these bars and restaurants arent just serving food all day.....
big aunt harry mary September 05, 2012 at 08:44 AM
ive watched many of these check points.. the only time they search a car is when there is a valid reason OR the idiot behind the wheels mouths off and creates his or her own problem.. they do not search every car unless there is probable cause. and that can be done when the drive decides to be a wise ass... most times, they are in and out with no issues.. it really is only a small delay and not even close to violating your rights. again.... driving is NOT a right, its a privilege...
big aunt harry mary September 05, 2012 at 08:50 AM
WATCH CLOSELY--- the only time they go after someone avoiding the check point is when that driver looks like he has something to hide or doing something he or she should not be doing--like driving on a suspened, drunk, dope in the car, underaged driver, illegal / unsafe car, and more.. if youre not doing anything wrong and have no reason to avoid the check point, why bother "raising the flag" by doing an illegal u turn right in front of them or some other erratic maneuver to attract their attention.. all this whining about "violating your rights" is useless and, if you have nothing to hide worry about, why let it bother you. ? its like being stuck in traffic for a few minutes.. big deal...
Ron Garland September 05, 2012 at 11:21 AM
the city should pay for the 4 dollor a gallon gas I'm burning while imposing on me for no reason....
Ron Garland September 05, 2012 at 11:42 AM
why would anybody be o.k. with being stoped and questioned for no reason?
Anon September 05, 2012 at 01:45 PM
If they arrest some irresponsible A Hole that could have killed my family then it is ok! They ask for your license they don't interrogate you. Geez you people need to chill !
Anon September 05, 2012 at 07:29 PM
Wow, I just wish you could spell!
big aunt harry mary September 26, 2012 at 06:30 AM
99% of the questions / conversation asked to a driver are; good evening, do you have your license and registration? are you currently insured ? ok.. thanks, drive safe.... when you step on your lips and smell like alcohol, isnt that what they're supposed to do...? catch the drunks and people WITHOUT INSURANCE ? i gotta pay for it--so do they !! and it is not a road block... you can drive thru it. its is a check point... when you pay a toll to cross a bridge it has a barricade... IT IS BLOCKED and if you dont have change, your stuck.... and then you can get a ticket for impeding traffic and blocking the roadway... like splitting hairs here. deal with it. it wont kill you.. as a matter of fact, it might even save you... or one of your kids....
Elliot Webb November 01, 2012 at 12:00 AM
Lots of great points made here (and some absolutely pointless jabs), what's great about this thread is that it actually proves the constitution is flourishing. Look at how much free speech is represented here! I think anyone can see the added safety and inconvenience given by check points (even if they don't want to admit it), but I think it's imperative that EVERYONE questions things that rest in the fourth amendment grey area, for the same reason that any piece of evidence(even a murder weapon) is unusable at trial if it was obtained by a cop illegally. Read more about constitutional checkpoints here http://gototrial.com/determining-whether-a-dui-resulted-from-an-illegal-roadblock/
Timber December 30, 2012 at 12:13 AM
@UNCLE FESTER 1:50 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012 What does someone look like when they have something to hide while avoiding a checkpoint? How does one look when they have a suspended license? How would anyone know someone has 'dope' in their car when stopping at a checkpoint? (x-ray vision, telepathy, superior olfactory perception) Granted an illegal u-turn gives the officer 'probable cause' to interfere with your liberty, the 4th Amend standard, but making a LEGAL turn while avoiding a checkpoint does not provide cause. There is no such thing as 'having nothing to hide' – life in this country is set with the standard of the right to be left alone (see writs of assistance in colonial history). An innocent individual is not subject to government scrutiny at anytime the government wishes otherwise the 4th becomes a group of meaningless words. It bothers some people because under such ambiguous circumstances situations that begin mildly may by happenstance turn severe. (Kelly Thomas, Pastor Steven Anderson. etc.)
Timber December 30, 2012 at 12:26 AM
Whether driving is a privilege or a right there are still constitutional standards that apply when the police are engaging the individual. With your premise of driving being a 'privilege' it could therefor mean that you no longer have the right to counsel, a fair trial, self-incrimination protection, due process, maybe even the freedom of speech and for good measure we could just abandon your right to life and shoot the motorist on the spot. Not very east to figure out for most, like yourself. http://www.nhinet.org/ccs/docs/writs.htm


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