Target Practice Sparks Fire in Lake Elsinore

The fire was reported at 2:42 p.m. on El Toro Road, near Ellie Road.

Shooting during target practice Sunday sparked a non-injury wildland fire on the outskirts of Lake Elsinore, officials said.

The fire on El Toro Road, near Ellie Road, was reported at 2:42 p.m., according to Cal Fire/Riverside County Fire Department.

It took 31 firefighters more than 2.5 hours to control the blaze, though it was contained much earlier; no buildings were threatened, the department's Melody Hendrickson said.

The total acreage was 5.7 acres, she said.

No one was injured in the fire, nor was anyone displaced, she said.

The Bureau of Land Management and March Air Reserve Base lent assistance to local firefighters.

CaWasteWatcher October 22, 2012 at 09:43 PM
National Forests are not the same as National Parks (very restrictive). Here is the link related to discharge of firearms in a National Forest... http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/giffordpinchot/recreation/?cid=stelprdb5309892 Basically 3 restrictions: 1) Must be 150 yards from a building, campsite, etc. 2) Cannot shoot across roads, and 3) cannot shoot into a cave.
CaWasteWatcher October 22, 2012 at 10:54 PM
Wrong again! Why don't you look these things up before you open your pie hole? Here is the link to the Riverside County laws related to discharging a gun.... http://rivcocob.com/ords/500/514.10.pdf Basically, it is perfectly legal to discharge a weapon as long as you are outside the one mile city limit. If you are not on your own property, you either need the owner's permission or you need to be 300 yards away from any buildings.
Mozzie October 22, 2012 at 11:18 PM
Part of Cleveland National Forest is in Riverside County. The county line along Ortega is about 14 miles west from Lake Elsinore.
Reverend Smith October 23, 2012 at 06:16 AM
I believe National Forest law superseeds county law regarding shooting. Apparently, within Cleveland National Forest, only at Orosco Ridge shooting area, Palomar area. http://www.fs.usda.gov/detailfull/cleveland/landmanagement/?cid=fsbdev7_016451&width=full#seventeen Regarding El Toro Road. I can't seem to find any "Ellie Road" on maps or google maps. When I google it, all I find is stories relating to this fire. WTF is Ellie Road? I think this incident points out one reason there are laws designating areas where shooting can take place where there isn't tender brush awaiting a bullet hitting a stone which sends a spark which ignites the tender brush.
Reverend Smith October 24, 2012 at 03:53 AM
Legal or illegal areas to shoot. Seems sketchy. Letter of the law seems to say no shotting enywhere but officially designated areas where there are backstops that have been cleared of flamible brush and access by fire and emergency vehicles isn't too bad. You can probably get away with a lot of bending of the law. I think it's kind of like too-dark window tint. You'll probably get away with it forever. But it just takes that one officer who has a thing about not seeing who's in the car or just wants to make a stop/bust. http://rivcocob.com/ords/500/514.10.pdf I wouldn't shoot anywhere somone in their home or backyard could hear the shot. If they can hear it, they know they're probably within range. And they don't usually know just how far the shooters or how well mannered or trained they are. So they're the most likely to call the authorities. While the "authorities" are often shooters their selves and *may* be sympathetic to the shooters, they also want to keep their jobs.


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