Target Practice Sparks Fire in Lake Elsinore

The fire was reported at 2:42 p.m. on El Toro Road, near Ellie Road.

Shooting during target practice Sunday sparked a non-injury wildland fire on the outskirts of Lake Elsinore, officials said.

The fire on El Toro Road, near Ellie Road, was reported at 2:42 p.m., according to Cal Fire/Riverside County Fire Department.

It took 31 firefighters more than 2.5 hours to control the blaze, though it was contained much earlier; no buildings were threatened, the department's Melody Hendrickson said.

The total acreage was 5.7 acres, she said.

No one was injured in the fire, nor was anyone displaced, she said.

The Bureau of Land Management and March Air Reserve Base lent assistance to local firefighters.

BLUESGUITAR777 October 22, 2012 at 03:23 PM
Is shooting back there even legal? I'd love to know...
Diana October 22, 2012 at 04:52 PM
I would love to know if it is legal too, there used to be a law that you could fire your weapons if you were so many feet in the hills, I had 10 acres a mile up in the hills off Bundy Canyon we used to shoot our guns on our property all the time without a problem. Also others would go behind our property in the hills and rabbit hunt without a problem.
J.Q. public October 22, 2012 at 05:11 PM
Its b.l.m. its about the only place we have to go and shoot if your that concerned maybe you should be asking the city why they wont open up the elsinore shooting range again the property is just sitting there vacant.
granpadude October 22, 2012 at 06:04 PM
Most every weekend we hear a lot of gun fire back there. Shell casings everywhere (thousands), a big mess! Would like to know if it's legal also.
KevWild October 22, 2012 at 07:41 PM
: Was wondering that too.
Jason EHS '99 October 22, 2012 at 08:14 PM
It is ILLEGAL to discharge ANY firearm, this includes BB guns, pellet guns and paintball guns, ANYWHERE within riverside county except in designated shooting areas, which there is only 2 i believe
Jason EHS '99 October 22, 2012 at 08:17 PM
Just so you know, Cleveland national forest is NOT within riverside county boundries. I am not sure if it is legal or not to shoot there.
blondi22569 October 22, 2012 at 09:31 PM
This area is not in the Cleveland National Forest. There is a rifle range back there, closer to Gavilan Hills area. I think it is a private rifle club though. Maywood I think is the name.
J.Q. public October 22, 2012 at 09:41 PM
Actually jason part of Cleveland national forest IS within riverside county and yes you can shoot there and it is NOT ILLEGAL to discharge ANY firearm within the county. The land in question is B.L.M land and that's public land which means i can shoot there. So get your information correct before you vomit it all over the patch!
CaWasteWatcher October 22, 2012 at 09:43 PM
National Forests are not the same as National Parks (very restrictive). Here is the link related to discharge of firearms in a National Forest... http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/giffordpinchot/recreation/?cid=stelprdb5309892 Basically 3 restrictions: 1) Must be 150 yards from a building, campsite, etc. 2) Cannot shoot across roads, and 3) cannot shoot into a cave.
CaWasteWatcher October 22, 2012 at 10:54 PM
Wrong again! Why don't you look these things up before you open your pie hole? Here is the link to the Riverside County laws related to discharging a gun.... http://rivcocob.com/ords/500/514.10.pdf Basically, it is perfectly legal to discharge a weapon as long as you are outside the one mile city limit. If you are not on your own property, you either need the owner's permission or you need to be 300 yards away from any buildings.
Mozzie October 22, 2012 at 11:18 PM
Part of Cleveland National Forest is in Riverside County. The county line along Ortega is about 14 miles west from Lake Elsinore.
Reverend Smith October 23, 2012 at 06:16 AM
I believe National Forest law superseeds county law regarding shooting. Apparently, within Cleveland National Forest, only at Orosco Ridge shooting area, Palomar area. http://www.fs.usda.gov/detailfull/cleveland/landmanagement/?cid=fsbdev7_016451&width=full#seventeen Regarding El Toro Road. I can't seem to find any "Ellie Road" on maps or google maps. When I google it, all I find is stories relating to this fire. WTF is Ellie Road? I think this incident points out one reason there are laws designating areas where shooting can take place where there isn't tender brush awaiting a bullet hitting a stone which sends a spark which ignites the tender brush.
Reverend Smith October 24, 2012 at 03:53 AM
Legal or illegal areas to shoot. Seems sketchy. Letter of the law seems to say no shotting enywhere but officially designated areas where there are backstops that have been cleared of flamible brush and access by fire and emergency vehicles isn't too bad. You can probably get away with a lot of bending of the law. I think it's kind of like too-dark window tint. You'll probably get away with it forever. But it just takes that one officer who has a thing about not seeing who's in the car or just wants to make a stop/bust. http://rivcocob.com/ords/500/514.10.pdf I wouldn't shoot anywhere somone in their home or backyard could hear the shot. If they can hear it, they know they're probably within range. And they don't usually know just how far the shooters or how well mannered or trained they are. So they're the most likely to call the authorities. While the "authorities" are often shooters their selves and *may* be sympathetic to the shooters, they also want to keep their jobs.


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