Community Activist Drops Effort To Recall Lake Elsinore Councilman

Chris Hyland told the council she decided to abandon the recall effort because of the effort required and a lack of promised cooperation from citizens and organizations.

A petition drive to collect signatures that, if successful, would have forced a recall election of Lake Elsinore Mayor Pro Tem Daryl Hickman, has ended.

Chris Hyland, the Lake Elsinore resident who initiated the recall effort, told Lake Elsinore City Council Tuesday night that she dropped the campaign due to the amount of time and exertion it was taking.

Hyland, who is in her 80s, also told the council she decided to abandon the recall effort because of lack of promised cooperation from citizens and organizations.

Despite her decision to drop the recall effort, Hyland did not waiver on her criticism of Hickman Tuesday night, calling his practices “unethical.”

Hyland said she is endorsing candidates Natasha Johnson, Craig Turner and incumbent Bob Magee in the

“I will be out there ranting and raving until they are elected,” Hyland said.

Hickman's current term on the council does not expire until 2014.

Hickman did not publicly comment Tuesday night on Hyland’s decision to abandon the recall. A call to the mayor pro tem Wednesday was not immediately returned.

Councilman Peter Weber showed support for Hyland’s decision Tuesday night and publicly congratulated Hickman.

Wednesday, Weber stated in an email that Hyland’s recall effort was spurred by . Hickman, along with council members Weber and Melissa Melendez, voted in support of Brady’s termination.

Although Hyland never mentioned the firing in her recall effort, Weber said in his email, “The very mean, nasty and untrue comments made by the people who signed the recall petition should make them feel ashamed. They let their anger and emotion over having their good friend … fired overtake their common sense.

“This recall was doomed to fail because the grounds that they based it upon didn’t justify a recall,” Weber continued. “This recall was small city politics at its worst. The accusations were false, mean-spirited, and don’t justify a recall.”

Diana August 16, 2012 at 04:13 AM
I think that you would do us all proud if you would take on the obligation to audit the City, you have such strong feelings regarding the corruption and Melendez and her RDA scam, wouldnt you love the satisfaction of exposing the corruption and being a hero....come on you know you want to.
Roberto August 16, 2012 at 05:59 AM
Audit of the RDA was done years ago. this is nothing new. BTW, I was just quoting the guy who posted below your picture....
Kerry August 16, 2012 at 06:13 AM
Seems like Diana comments on every article on this site... And as for Ms. Hyland, she's been unhappy with whoever was in office for at least the last 20 yrs. She may be trying to do good but she has been incredibly mean to my mom, who works for City Hall for as long as I can remember. I don't understand why this would even be worthy of news!
Diana August 16, 2012 at 03:04 PM
I believe that Larry was commenting on the picture of Chris Hyland.
Diana August 16, 2012 at 03:07 PM
Why does one hide behind a picture and a false name when posting on the Patch, if you're going to go to the trouble why not post a picture of who you really are and your real name, what are you afraid of? I open myself up to criticism everyday by posting my picture and my real name, I have nothing to hide!
Diana August 16, 2012 at 03:36 PM
I was speaking of a complete audit, payroll, accounting records receivables and payables, bank statements etc, etc. Just like Mirna is doing to save Imperial Beach from BK.
Kerry August 16, 2012 at 03:51 PM
Lake Elsinore Resident, I understand what an open forum is. I just found it funny that every article I read was commented on by her.
Anon August 16, 2012 at 03:51 PM
Diana, every City and school district across the country needs an audit by a pissed off tax payer! I would love to be a welfare fraud investigater.
Antonio August 16, 2012 at 04:31 PM
Hickman as well as Steve Manos supported Michel Knight who was arrested on a felony charge of illegally trying to recall an ethical Lake Elsinore city council member. Based upon this one incident neither Hickman or Manos deserves to be on the Lake Elsinore City Council.
Diana August 16, 2012 at 05:24 PM
Kerry, you are so correct. I enjoy being active and sharing comments, thoughts and opinions with others on current events that the Patch posts. If you read through many Patch posts you will see that there are several of us that post our opinions daily, not sure what your point is? Posting comments is what one does on an open forum, right? Without people chatting and sharing their opinions, what would be the purpose of this site?
Anthony August 16, 2012 at 06:28 PM
I absolutely agree! Lets clear these non-caring idiots out and start fresh with some real people that actually care. Because if someone doesn't care it's going to show. And this Counsel has shown they don't care!
Crystal August 16, 2012 at 06:37 PM
a better lake elsinore is what we need. and because i am a resident of lakeland village, should I not voice my opinion here? I mean after all,my kids attend L.E.U.S.D. schools, I'm on the lake every weekend, I pay for the annual lake use pass every year (which is given directly to the city), I shop at albertsons, target, home depot and costco, I pay property taxes and I support ABLE, I'm also on my way to becoming CERT certified for the city of lake elsinore, But according to roberto, people like diana and myselfs' opinions aren't wanted or needed? I think (and this is just my opinion) but I think that if these councilmemebers haven't done us any help, then they need to go. As far as councilmembers having "skeletons in their closets" well, who doesn't?
Antonio August 16, 2012 at 07:31 PM
Not all Lake Elsinore Council members are the same. You have well two well qualified, hardworking, ethical council men in Magee and Tisdale. Pete Weber is very smart and educated but his policies maybe more favorable to business than the residents of Lake Elsinore.
Roberto August 17, 2012 at 01:22 PM
I'm still not sure about Johnson, She may have been a victim of circumstance left hanging out to dry once the Chamber deal unfolded and they became disABLed due to the 85,000 dollar chamber funding shut ABLE down. She needs to be vetted and hopefully, she turns out to be and alright person. Turner, Morsh & Manos I'm afraid may pull votes enabling worthless Weber to get re-elected.
Antonio August 17, 2012 at 07:50 PM
Chris Hyland's heart is in the right place and she is a fearless leader. At the last council meeting she said she supports Magee, Johnson and Turner for Lake Elsinore City Council in the November election and she will be campaigning hard for them. Let the voters decide. Thus they will get the government they deserve. I hope Chris Hyland continues her political activism and challenges anything she doesn't feel is right with Lake Elsinore City government. All of us residents of Lake Elsinore benefit from her efforts at "good government."
Gordanle2012 August 18, 2012 at 12:53 AM
Lyn, with all due respect, you've got it all wrong. Hyland has done some good but when you throw a hundred stones at a bottle, one is bound to hit. The others hurt the innocents and deter the ambitious. The reason she supports Magee, Johnson and Turner is because they haven't done anything. This town has stagnated because Hyland and her ilk have challenged anyone who dares to be move forward. Please move aside and let Lake Elsinore grow responsibly.... not everyone is a crook!
Antonio August 18, 2012 at 02:01 AM
Governments needs people like Hyland who challenge things that do not seem right. She didn't say why she supported these 3. Thanks for your opinion. I don't have any intention of moving aside. To ask me to do that is inappropriate. I never said everyone is a crook. I did say Steve Manos and Daryl Hickman supported Michel Knight who is charged with a felony for trying to undermine or democratic process. There support shows at the least a problem with their ethics and judgement. We need people on the City Council who are ethical and exercise very good judgement. Brian Tisdale and Bob Magee appear good choices.
Gordan August 18, 2012 at 10:26 PM
Lyn, actually I meant for Ms. Hyland to move aside, not you.... I don't know you but I respect anyone who gets involved. People on the City Council not only have a moral and ethical responsibility to the citizens of this City, but they must have courage to make bold decisions. Tisdale and Magee may be ethical, but they don't have the courage to stand up to the County and MAKE them pay their fair share including maintenance of the Lake and the Rosetta Canyon Fire Station. Take the County to court if need be. Heck, Tisdale couldn't even stand up to Buster on the Boat Dock meeting at Lakeland.... how could he? Buster's his boss. Lets get people in there that are ambitious and effective....
Roberto August 18, 2012 at 11:59 PM
"Tisdale and Magee may be ethical, but they don't have the courage to stand up to the County and MAKE them pay their fair share including maintenance of the Lake and the Rosetta Canyon Fire Station." REPLY: The firestation is already funded by developer mitigation fees, not the county, city or anyone else. The city on the other hand can drag their ass on it becoming fully operational. none the less, it's funded. Seems your untruths and asking Chis Hyland not to be involved in citiy politics in the city she is a resident speaks volumes for your personal agenda. Chris hyland has more balls than Webless, Hickless & Malicious put together.
Antonio August 19, 2012 at 12:40 AM
I didn't know the County's costs of the lake were an issue. Doesn't the city control the lake? I
Gordan August 19, 2012 at 12:50 AM
I'm talking about the cost of the fire engine and staff - Those costs should be shared by the area that station covers and not just the City it's in.... just like animal shelter. I have no personal agenda except I'd like to see more people involved in government and making LE a better town. Do you really think Hyland's witch hunt against Hickman was good for this town? (No pun intended). She's got balls alright... just wish she had the good will to match. At the end of the day, I respect her involvement and if her actions motivate others to get off their lazy butts and get involved too.... then you go girl!!!!
Craig John Turner September 04, 2012 at 02:09 AM
There has been a lot of dissatisfaction expressed in these comments. I hope you'll visit my Facebook page, Craig Turner For Lake Elsinore City Council. I would really like your impassioned support.
Roberto September 04, 2012 at 08:41 AM
"Do you really think Hyland's witch hunt against Hickman was good for this town? " REPLY: According top Roses and Rasberries, it was and is a good thing. The fact that Hicless is still there only means one more dreg ton get oust. "(No pun intended). She's got balls alright... just wish she had the good will to match. At the end of the day, I respect her involvement and if her actions motivate others to get off their lazy butts and get involved too.... then you go girl!!!!" REPLY: When your 80 plus and you have no hidden agenda, no one in politics that has an agenda is going like you when you get the documents and expose their agenda. As far as operational cost for the Fire Station, the monies delayed by withholding the firestation are a calclated risk taken by the city to balnce their budget.
Super Woman September 04, 2012 at 03:01 PM
I have lived in Lake Elsinore for 18 years and I have watched who and what Chris Hyland who has lived here for some 26 years expose illegalities in this City. I remember her telling me she had collected documents and information on illegal situations on two City Managers, an Assistant City Manager and a Council person. Although she obtained all the information two of her friends filed Qui Tam lawsuits against them and won exposing the three who of course had to leave the City. Diana your problem even though you don't llive in the City of LE, you think are the smartest person in the area and that you know everything. Well honey you are the most unknowlegeable person that opens her mouth without the facts. The problem with you and others who degrade Chris Hyland with your derogatory remarks is you don't collect the documents and prove what you are calling someone or exposing illegalities. In other words your jealous of the fact that she is smarter by collecting documents to prove what she is exposing other than opening up her mouth without the legal documents as it appears to be your practice. Trust me knowing her she has not stopped and ...................................................................
Anon September 04, 2012 at 03:08 PM
Diana, i knew you had a secret agenda. You want to be Chris don't you? Stand in line honey, deep down we all do! NOT!
Anon September 04, 2012 at 03:10 PM
I have been hearing that we need a new council since I moved here. No one will ever reach everyone's expectations.
Ellie Insyder September 26, 2012 at 07:34 AM
Antonio September 26, 2012 at 03:05 PM
Ellie you have some good observations, especially the facts about corrupt/incompetent Steve Manos and Hickman. But you are off base on Bob Buster. This guy is ethical, competent and fiscally conservative. He isn't afraid to confront public sector unions that have overreached. Jeffries is a republican and that party has been hijacked by the extreme right wing. They vote for big business and against middle class interests. For example the republicans would love to kill the new Consumer Financial Protection laws.
Ellie Insyder September 26, 2012 at 03:13 PM
Thanks. I truly mean that. I have no problem with diagreements. Regarding Bob Buster vs. Kevin Jeffries, this is not about partisan politics, I don't care if either belonged to the pink underwear party. This is about history, and the reality is that Bob Buster has been AWOL in Lake Elsinore until the last few months. Sorry, that just doesn't work for me. Kevin is at functions all the time and always has been. He listens and has been tried to help our new cities in the county to avoid the axe that Jerry Brown wants to chop them with. As I said, I think that disagreements are healthy for raising awareness and seeing both sides so that a solution that beneifits all can be created. I just think Bob Buster is pandering, based on his past apathy towards Lake Elsinore.
Antonio September 26, 2012 at 10:53 PM
Those new cities incorporated in the midst of a financial recession caused by not regulating the financial services industry. The head of the SEC, Christopher Cox, at the time was a Bush appointee and former republican congressman who pushed the idea that wall street banks should regulate themselves. Kevin Jeffries has publicly said that all republicans must hew to the right wing portion of their party or they turn their sights on their own. Jeffires has also supported state union demands. Bob Buster has been very visible in the Lake Elsinore Valley and I know several people he has helped with the county bureaucracy. Sorry, this one is a no-brainer Buster is the best choice.


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