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HOUSING: Lake Elsinore Balances Needs Of Its Poor Against The Wealthy It Wants To Attract

City officials are working to balance affordable housing needs with future neighborhoods that could attract high-income earners to the city.

The number of houses expected to be built in Lake Elsinore over the course of the next eight years and where they will be built was the subject of a study session Tuesday night.

The session held at Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District was part of the regularly scheduled Lake Elsinore City Council meeting in which council members and the planning commission hammered out details of the Lake Elsinore "Housing Element."

The hefty draft document is required under state law to be included in the city’s General Plan. The proposed Housing Element defines and lays out the city’s housing strategies for the next eight years.

Tuesday night was somewhat of a balancing act. Based on projections that utilized 2010 U.S. Census Bureau data, the city’s Housing Element draft shows the number of homes in Lake Elsinore will grow to an anticipated 21,022 units compared to 15,239 in 2010. Under the document’s definition, a home can be a house, apartment, condo, mobile home, trailer or room that serves as separate living quarters.

But who will buy those new homes? According to the Census figures reported in the Housing Element draft, more than 13 percent of the city’s households are extremely low income, 11 percent are very low income, and 17 percent are low income. The majority of households – 61 percent – report moderate income, the data show.

One of the primary goals of the Housing Element under state law is to ensure a comprehensive strategy for affordable housing, which the city is required to provide for its less affluent residents.

The task raised concerns Tuesday about how to weigh affordable housing needs against what some officials see as a need to build premier neighborhoods in Lake Elsinore to attract high-income earners to the city.

“If you build it they will come,” said Councilman Brian Tisdale. The slogan has the potential to go both ways, and Tisdale cited the recently completed Pottery Court low-income housing project in downtown Lake Elsinore as an example, which he said attracted many residents from outside the city.

Lake Elsinore should serve all its residents, but “we don’t want to be a magnet” for low-income people outside the city, Tisdale said.

Commissioner Shelly Jordan expressed concerns that the Lake Elsinore Valley Chamber of Commerce was not invited to participate in the drafting of the Housing Element. Chamber President Kim Cousins has long rallied for the development of some high-income housing in Lake Elsinore for executives who might consider living in the city.

“I think it’s important they weigh in,” Jordan said.

In reviewing the Housing Element draft, Vice Chairman of the Planning Commission Mike O’Neal said he was disappointed to see so much high-density residential (apartments and condos) planned for the city’s historical downtown district.

O’Neal petitioned for a strategy that moves away from a “so-called slum model” in downtown and instead incorporates a more “integrated” approach across the city. High-density residential could be built along north-lying mining lands and in areas near the floodplains, O’Neal said.

Councilman Steve Manos also expressed concern about the image of downtown.

O’Neal acknowledged that when zoning was adopted at that time, but he cautioned that the city carefully evaluate the strategy as it pertains to the Housing Element.

Mayor Bob Magee noted O’Neal’s concerns but said the city could size up future projects on a case-by-case basis.

Planning Commission Chairman Rick Morsch said developers have shown little interest recently in building low-income housing in Lake Elsinore. City Attorney Barbara Leibold assured Morsch the city has an incentive in its back pocket. As part of the process of folding its Redevelopment Agency, the city finds itself in the unusual position of having approximately $31 million available over the next 20 years that can be loaned to potential developers who are interested in building affordable housing in Lake Elsinore, Leibold explained.

“I’m sure we will have interest,” she said, noting that Bridge Housing Corporation, which built Pottery Court, has already been in discussion about more low-income projects in the city.

Tuesday night’s suggestions will be incorporated into the Housing Element draft, which will then be forwarded to the California Department of Housing and Community Development for review. Once the city receives comments back from the state agency, the draft will head to city council for final approval.

The city wants to see the draft finalized before Oct. 15. If it meets the deadline, the Housing Element will be valid for eight years, according to city documents. If the city fails to meet that deadline, the state would require the document to be renewed again in 2017.

Hogle-Ireland Consultants was the firm hired by the city to prepare the current Housing Element draft.

One Voice February 13, 2013 at 09:27 PM
" As part of the process of folding its Redevelopment Agency, the city finds itself in the unusual position of having approximately $31 million available over the next 20 years that can be loaned to potential developers who are interested in building affordable housing in Lake Elsinore, Leibold explained." The City finds themselves in "an unusual Position", WTH, and since when does the City have the authority to be in the LOANING business with this money to potential builders????? Use that RDA for what it is intended for, fix the street lights, install sidewalks, clean up the ghetto areas, plant some landscaping down Lakeshore Dr, put a bike/walking lane around the Lake, take the little Tijuana out of down town, are you kidding me! Please explain how the City ended up with $30 million RDA when they stated they didn't have enough money to finish the revamp of the boat launch?
julian February 14, 2013 at 01:02 AM
The a majority of the current housing stock in this city is already affordable, too affordable in my opinion. We are already a magnet for the poor who move here as a last resort from all over southern California. Just because there is money on the table doesn't necessarily mean that we should take it because to do so will actually harm our community in the long run. Sorry for any typos.
One Voice February 14, 2013 at 02:27 AM
Again another person that doesn't live here and finds all their data from the internet, geez
One Voice February 14, 2013 at 02:55 AM
If they are going to move and keep low income in the Pottery Court they have some work to do, have you seen the influx of people that are moving in to the apartment complexes on Grand, Lincoln and Riverside Dr. Go to the Alligator Pit for dinner and sit at the bar section to eat and watch what goes on in this shopping center around Circle K on a Friday or Saturday night, he will scare the heck out of you.
julian February 14, 2013 at 03:17 PM
I usually don't engage with the trolls on this website, but I will point the obvious fact that you don't know who I am, nor my history with Lake Elsinore, nor my personal investment in this city. I consider myself a part-time resident and one day after I retire I will be a full time resident. Needless to say I pay property taxes out here, and I've been enjoying the area as a property owner for the last 46 years. I've seen this city wallow in growing poverty as other once desolate towns like Temecula, Perris, and Murrieta have prospered. Fact is our housing is already affordable. Where else can you find rents as low as ours or housing prices so low you would think this was the third world. Houses in Kabul, Afghanistan, cost the same or more than they do here in dollars. With the unique natural resources at our disposal - and our central valley location you would think this was the gem of the valley, and actually it once was. Invite the state to build a State University here on the Lake's Shore or a community College. Build a hospital. Let's try building a middle class out here that actually could provide a tax base to pay for our infrastructure rather then depending on the government to subsidize more housing for the poor who don't pay very much at all in taxes and tax our already burdened social systems. We ALREADY HAVE A HUGE INVENTORY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, that's the one thing we don't need more of.
Arthur Spooner February 14, 2013 at 03:49 PM
Julian, (Shane, Jeff Kleiner) the state is broke. Are you going to pay for this University or Community College you want to put here in LE??
Arthur Spooner February 14, 2013 at 03:52 PM
Bringing a University or a Community College here would only bring traffic and crime. We have several schools in surrounding cities. If you walked away from your computer you would see that.
Antonio February 14, 2013 at 04:37 PM
As long as the low income units are well designed, built and managed to keep out drugs/gangs then these residents are the low wage workers that small business employ. We also need a strategy to attract higher income workers so we have a balanced community. Higher skilled people look for quality schools, cultural activities, college campus, hospital, recreation for residents,etc.
One Voice February 14, 2013 at 07:56 PM
The following list is a few of low income/affordable apartments within LE a town of 50,000+: Pottery, Lincoln, Joy, Parkview, Woodcrest, Broadway, Lindsay, Riverside Dr., Grand, Graham, Kellogg, Limited, Pope, Spring, Peck, Heald, Ellis, Casino. Our City has more apartment complexes then any other town around is, there is no balance. Until City officials do something to clean up what is already here, there is no hope to bring in higher skilled people, quality schools, or anything else. Because of the demographics of our town we cannot get retailers to our town, there just isn't any money spent here to support shopping and dining.
julian February 15, 2013 at 12:13 AM
The problem is there is money to be made from the federal and state government to build and subsidize this type of housing which is the subtext to this article. Leave the money on the table and walk away is what I say, but our community leaders have their own interests in mind.
Frankie February 15, 2013 at 05:24 AM
Clean up the infrastructure first, then put out the welcome sign.
Arthur Spooner February 15, 2013 at 05:51 AM
How is there money to be made? Its built on tax payer funds, then section 8 pays most of the rent. You do know where that money comes from right??
julian February 15, 2013 at 06:40 AM
I prefer not to engage with those on the boards, but you are miss-reading my statement. "Money to be made" is more like "money to be had" and refers to our city applying for or accepting federal and state allocations of funds to build these welfare projects by underwriting and financing them. The Irony is that our local republican government is taking advantage of what are essentially liberal programs.
Frankie February 15, 2013 at 04:25 PM
There is not a magic money tree fro the feds or the state, this is tax payers money that the Government squanders away.
Truthful February 15, 2013 at 06:11 PM
Like people with MONEY would want to move here! What a joke!
Lisa March 07, 2013 at 06:16 PM
We have a beautiful city, Lake Elsinore. Viewing the Lake from the terraced neighborhoods in Shorepoint and Cambria near McVicker Park takes my breath away. If you've ever travelled anywhere outside of Lake Elsinore, you would understand how beautiful and unique this city really is. It still has a feel of a small town, with many loving volunteers and neighbors coming together at the drop of a hat. The census said 61% reported moderate income. I know many households who make above $150k annually, but that doesn't seem to be reflected in the article or report. Let's focus on cleaning up the crime though. Our children deserve a safe city. I'd love to see police officers and fireman stopping at parks, schools and local establishments just to say hello and we're taking care of you. Don't laugh. It's what community is all about. When others hear of the love and care we have for our own citizens, "They will come."
Lisa March 07, 2013 at 06:19 PM
They do come. Just look at the boats on the lake on the weekends.

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