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Lake Elsinore City Manager Terminated

Lake Elsinore Parks and Recreation Director Pat Kilroy was appointed by the council to serve as interim city manager.

Lake Elsinore is without a permanent leader.

In a 3-2 vote Tuesday night, the Lake Elsinore City Council decided during its regularly scheduled meeting to terminate City Manager Bob Brady.

Mayor Brian Tisdale and Councilman Bob Magee voted against the termination; Mayor Pro Tem Daryl Hickman, along with council members Melissa Melendez and Peter Weber, voted to terminate.

Lake Elsinore Parks and Recreation Director Pat Kilroy was appointed by the council to serve as interim city manager.

Tuesday night was at times dramatic, as nearly 100 protesters representing a cross-section of the community lined the Cultural Center steps prior to the council meeting. Holding signs reading “We Want Brady” and “We Spoke – You Did Not Listen,” they came to show support for the city manager.

They also turned out to show their displeasure with Hickman, Melendez and Weber, vowing to “unseat” the three.

The protesters said they are part of a newly formed political action committee called “A Better Lake Elsinore.” As they chanted “Brady, Brady,” and some passing motorists honked in support, Lake Elsinore community activist Chris Hyland said, “In my 25 years here, I have never seen anything like this.”

Hyland has started the process of attempting to recall Hickman and is determined, she said, to unseat Melendez and Weber in upcoming elections.

Lake Elsinore resident/business owner and Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District board president Harvey Ryan, who chairs A Better Lake Elsinore, said he doesn’t understand the motivations of the three council members.

But Hickman, Melendez and Weber got their chance to explain during the meeting. Weber and Hickman said they felt Brady had not adequately performed his duties as city manager. They contended the city is not business friendly and needs “a new direction.”

Melendez argued the city manager’s contract was too generous based on his performance. She had voted against a contract extension for Brady last year.

This time around, Melendez said Brady’s pay and benefits package were not in line with his performance or the economic reality of the city.

Brady’s $185,000-a-year-salary ranked him near the bottom of the pay scale for California’s city managers. Melendez asked her colleagues Tuesday night if they wanted to discuss “a compromise” to cut the city manager’s salary and benefits. She suggested his pay be returned to its 2005 level of $135,000 annually and some of his benefits curtailed.

None of the council members came forward.

When asked during a break why he did not support the pay reduction put forward by Melendez, Tisdale said it was not fair to the city manager.

After the council’s decision was rendered, Brady addressed the audience. A typically stoic city manager, he told the crowd of supporters he was “overwhelmed and humbled” by their strong backing over the last week. ( to read about a March 7 special city council meeting held to discuss Brady’s annual performance evaluation.)

Brady promised to stay involved with the community and said he would continue to serve.

“I live here, my kids go to school here,” he said.

Afterward, Tisdale called a 10-minute recess to allow Brady to exit the meeting, during which time supporters huddled around the city manager to offer condolences. He made his way through the hugs, handshakes and some tears.

“Thank you,” he said.

Lepimpster March 14, 2012 at 06:20 PM
Don't know much as to why they terminated Brady, however I do know "The Three Stooges" will not be getting my vote. On a side note, Melendez I feel with her coffee meetings, should be spreading the wealth to other tax paying businesses rather than just one in particular. Also if it's true that Melendez is using city employees to babysit her kids then that needs to STOP!!! That is our tax money funding your babysitting. Be responsible and get your own personal babysitter like the rest of us parents. You are keeping our city employees from doing their regular jobs.
Connie March 14, 2012 at 06:22 PM
Tony, I am informed! I have lived in this community for 10 years! You have no idea of the struggles that have plagued this town! Lake Elsinore has been infested with vermin for far too long! Unfortunately, it looks like they have already gotten to you. I could care less of what you think of me, I will not judge you, I do not know you. But it is hard to believe your are new to this community when you are so quick to judge my person!
Tony Tony Tone March 14, 2012 at 06:35 PM
Thanks Diana, I really don't care about this city, I just got here, sorry. I have been reading some articles and blogs about what has been going on here? My wife is finishing up her contract and was going to join me here next month. I told her last night not to come as I'll be moving back to Texas. Honestly, this city is a mess. I agree with the majority of people the timing is really bad for them to fire this gentleman. oh well! It's may day off, and these blogs are free entertainment. Hahaha. Thanks gain for your suggestions to watch the videos, you sound like a nice lady.
Connie March 14, 2012 at 06:36 PM
Your words are vile and slanderous! You are a pathetic human being! The only creep here is you! Shame on you! Careful what you wish on others!
Tony Tony Tone March 14, 2012 at 06:45 PM
Sorry Ms. Connie, if I offended you, it was not my intention. I am sure you have done a lot for this community. I strongly feel that your council members should have waited, they will be spending a lot of money to replace him. This city is already broke, people like you are stuck here but I have the choice to move back to where I came from so to speak. Good luck to you(no sarcasm).
Anon March 14, 2012 at 08:11 PM
But what are they doing as council members to hurt the city besides this? I need facts
Anon March 14, 2012 at 08:27 PM
Diana I have thought the same thing about her. She has ran so many times and lost. If she
Anon March 14, 2012 at 08:27 PM
Was just a little more likable she could do better.
Brad March 14, 2012 at 08:40 PM
In my opinion, the outlet mall needs to be converted into an air conditioned indoor mall with a roof and a decent food court in order to succeed.
Anon March 14, 2012 at 08:52 PM
Brad I have lived here for 18 years and the outlet has always done very well. Are they shutting it down? No , they aren't! Choose your battles! When I moved here we had no target, no costco , no lowes , no home depot or walmart to name a few! We have come a very long way!!!! Both my kids did great at our schools and moved on to big universities of which I will not name because it will away who I am. I love Lake Elsinore! It ain't Perris or mo valley!
Linda Ridenour March 14, 2012 at 10:25 PM
I feel that Pat Kilroy will make a great manager. He is helpful, studies the issues,and cares. I am sure he would be happy with the salary and benefits.
Brad March 14, 2012 at 11:28 PM
@ American Girl - Remember when Central and Collier were 2 lanes and there was only a stop sign? I do. :o)
Anon March 15, 2012 at 12:12 AM
Yes i do, taking my daughter to Temescal Canyon every morning took about 40 minutes. I do not miss that! See! We have come a long way!
Katheryn March 15, 2012 at 01:03 AM
Hey Brad, thank you for all the pictures of yesterdays protest by ABLE. I think I saw you you were wearing a blue shirt and didn't have your baseball cap on in the 2nd row? I hope you are there to photograph all of A BETTER LAKE ELSINORE events.
Brad March 15, 2012 at 02:13 AM
Yes I was wearing a blue shirt and slacks but no baseball hat. I however, was sitting next to somebody that was wearing a Veteran baseball hat.
Katheryn March 15, 2012 at 03:29 PM
Hi Brad, you were sitting next to Gil.
Cindy jacobs March 15, 2012 at 07:13 PM
how do I sign up
jill smith March 15, 2012 at 07:46 PM
Weber finds emotions a sign of weakness and even finds them comical. Feed his narcicisstic personality and he will be your best friend and his attention span could last hours. Otherwise he will squash you like a bug and never look back you might get his attention for 3 minutes with no eye contact and this includes those he cares about. You see with him the ends justify the means because he will do great things and soon we will all know how great he is.
jill smith March 15, 2012 at 08:18 PM
I read in one of the comments Weber is a legend in his own mind you really are accurate and able to see the truth. Those who are successfull by hurting intimidating fooling or manipulating others some would say deserve our pity afterall imagine living like this it consumes all your being and not in a good way, but what I say is dont bother wasting any of your energy on them because they know right from wrong and are to cowardly to face their own fears which drive their behaviour. A little wisdom from someone who knows dont bother with him at all put your energy into people that care for the right reasons. A cruel arrogant person can do good ofcourse dont get me wrong but lots of people will get hurt in thecross fire so dodge those bullets and good luck working with grandiose MR PETER WEBER
Brad March 15, 2012 at 08:23 PM
When Peter Weber said he was from New York, the entire time I couldn't stop thinking to myself, "Isn't that a historically mafia run city?".
jill smith March 15, 2012 at 09:09 PM
I think you mean New Jersey . Weber is not corupt he exposes coruption if you followed city politics over the past 8 years you would know this fact. I was just trying to give you insight into his personality dodge the bullets is just a saying I did not mean it literaly. You can get hurt in the crossfire of someones words. only 1% of the population are truly narcicisstic and polititions I would guess make up alot of that 1%.
Katheryn March 15, 2012 at 10:47 PM
Good one Brad, Weber is a joke. While I was watching the Council Meeting he made me laugh a couple of times from his comments. Telling us he's big business, a captain of industry, he built the city from Scratch, he's a real important person, he made the Earth in 7 days. I do know he is a windbag, and talks nonsense.
jill smith March 28, 2012 at 09:21 AM
The voices of the people how about a few controlling angry loud mouths tha didn't get their way so they discredit the council members of everything they have ever done what drama and stupidity. The community is devastated what drama.
Anon March 28, 2012 at 01:57 PM
James really? Move away please!
Anon March 28, 2012 at 03:20 PM
Maybe B of A and Wells are not giving loans, ever thought of that? How does Hickman control the banks??
Anon March 28, 2012 at 03:25 PM
You seem very passionate about our City and their politics. Ever thought of running yourself? Oh, I didnt think so. SHUT UP!
Brad March 28, 2012 at 03:30 PM
You know -- sometimes I get the distinct feeling some of the people behind these anon usernames are council members and/or their spouses.
Anon March 28, 2012 at 03:37 PM
Not me, just a disgruntled tax payer. I really could care less about City Politics, State politics are more my thing. Sorry to burst your bubble Brad. I am just a normal resident who works in the private sector.
Steve March 28, 2012 at 04:22 PM
"Don't bother going to Bank of America and Wells Fargo for loans they won't give them to you." What a moron as if any loan is processed in the branch, loan approval comes from the banks financial headquarters. Hickmans statements might not be the brightest but not enough reason to recall the man, what a waste of time and money. James you lack any kind of humor or personality and take any word spoken as some kind of threat, get a life dude you are boring us all, try to come up with something to say, you're repeating yourself makes you look like a retard.
One Voice March 28, 2012 at 06:47 PM
The threat of a council recall in Lake Elsinore seems to occur about as often as an algae bloom causes a massive fish kill at the lake, with results about as odorous. 1992 an effort to recall Tere Cherveny & George Alongi by a group called "For Our Community's United Support", came up short and failed. Another effort in 1993 to recall Washburn fell short of signatures and failed. Organizers in 1995 to recall Dan Bender & Kevin Pate failed, unable to collect signatures by the deadline. 1997 effort to recall Genie Kelley and Pam Brinley failed to collect enough required signatures. 2009 recall threats or efforts for Tom Buckley, made it to the ballot box but fell short of removing Buckley from office. The organizers group leader of "Elsinore Voters Against Corruption" was arrested for corruption and charged with election fraud and conspiracy. In the past two decades, several efforts have been launched, with two getting as far as the ballot box and neither of those resulting in a sitting council member being removed.

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