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Lake Elsinore Takes Step To Move The City Forward

“This is long overdue,” said Lake Elsinore resident Tim Fleming.

It has to start somewhere. For nearly two hours Friday morning, Lake Elsinore City Council members worked together to determine the vision for their city.

With some input from staff and local residents, the council came up with a vision statement:

“The City of Lake Elsinore will be the ultimate lake destination where all can live, work and play, build futures and fulfill dreams.”

“It’s pretty wordy, but we’ve got a lot to be proud of,” City Manager Grant Yates told the council after the arduous task was complete.

The council members and staff will “chew on” the statement this weekend, but it’s expected the wording will now be used “very publicly” to market the city, Yates said.

Rick Bishop, executive director of the Western Riverside Council of Governments, volunteered at no charge to lead Friday’s workshop. He explained the vision statement is important because it conveys to the world what the city is about, what it wants to achieve over time, and provides an inspiring “big picture” to work toward.

Without a vision, he said, “You’re circling the drain.”

During Friday’s exercise, council members each expressed their visions for the city.

Mayor Bob Magee said he wants to make the lake the focal point. A desire to bring hotels, restaurants, piers, water attractions, and other recreational and lifestyle activities to the lake were among Magee’s input.

Mayor Pro Tem Natasha Johnson emphasized “a city that lets everyone fulfill their dreams,” and said she wants to see higher education, jobs and medical care in Lake Elsinore.

“I want it all in our city limits,” she explained.

Councilman Steve Manos pushed for the “live, work, play” factor, but he also emphasized safety in the community.

Councilman Brian Tisdale echoed the council members’ push for local jobs, and he also rallied for making Lake Elsinore a “recreational Mecca.”

Councilman Daryl Hickman pushed for an emphasis on sports in the city.

The process led to defining some key initiatives designed to help bring the vision to fruition.

Public safety, economic development, improving the city’s image, transportation, higher education, recreation, and bringing improved health care services to the city were the initiatives identified Friday.

How the city will implement the initiatives was not discussed, but Bishop told council members, “This is the first step.”

The process of defining a vision statement and identifying goals has largely been absent in Lake Elsinore. City Manager Grant Yates, who took the helm last year, said he felt it was time to adopt some forward thinking.

Tim Fleming, a 19-year-resident, agreed.

“This is long overdue,” he said.

Friday’s workshop took place at the Lake Elsinore Marina & RV Resort because the city’s historic Cultural Center on Main Street -- the usual spot for meetings -- is currently undergoing a seismic retrofit.

The cost to rent the resort clubhouse Friday was $150, Yates said.

The meeting spot provided a unique vantage point: The clubhouse features a panoramic view of the lake, a brick fireplace, and wood-beam ceilings. Looking out through the windows at the dramatic storm clouds and rain that fell on the lake Friday, Bishop said, “This is Lake Elsinore – I wish everyone could see this. It’s beautiful! I’m glad we’re holding the meeting here.”

The Teller of Truth February 14, 2013 at 06:43 PM
Agreed. Eloquently stated One Voice!
One Voice February 14, 2013 at 07:01 PM
Lyn, let's just say that I am living the business owners dream, enough said, find someone else to take your hostility out on...make it a great day !"
Antonio February 14, 2013 at 09:46 PM
No hostility, I just like to shed some light on the B.S. some people spout. But I guess your complaints are just the typical business owners spin on things if as you say you are living the business owners dream. It takes a bigger and more responsible person to be concerned with the bigger picture than their owner self interests.
One Voice February 15, 2013 at 01:17 AM
Wow Lyn, I don't get why you want to argue the issue, we pride ourselves on an outstanding American specialty made product, outstanding customer service and being within the top 50 builders in the WORLD. We devote 24/7 to this business and our Customers are an elite group that demand perfection and quality and we are more then happy to fulfill there needs. It's called pride and sacrifice for the past 20 years to get where we are today, probably something that you're not familiar with, which would help me understand why you are so challenging. Self interest, naw we put our employees and customers first because without them we would be no where. And I can assure you that I am not your typical business Owner, but then if I keep having to explain this to you, I guess you would never understand. B.S. now that is laughable and believe me I am living the dream and loving it, even with the State, County and Federal mandates that are thrown at us, we will meet their demand and continue to pride ourselves on owning and operating within the laws.
Antonio February 15, 2013 at 03:42 PM
I took issue with your statement "business pay more than their fair share of taxes." But you haven't given any facts to support your statement. If you want to spout off and shoot from the hip, just say it's your opinion. You don't know me so speculating about the kind of person I am is foolish.
One Voice February 15, 2013 at 06:20 PM
Lyn, let it go I am not obligated to provide you with and facts to support my statement, business owners get what I am talking about and apparently you are not one, I are done here. Geez
Arthur Spooner February 15, 2013 at 07:03 PM
For Carl http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=281471 There are plenty more articles to google besides that one
Arthur Spooner February 15, 2013 at 09:08 PM
The problem with people like Julian and Lyn is that they think everything is magical. Its all provided for free and we all live happily ever after. Must be nice to ride unicorns around and draw rainbows all day long!
Antonio February 15, 2013 at 09:32 PM
That's exactly what I thought. If you can't backup what you say best not say it in the first place. Lesson number one for professionals.
One Voice February 16, 2013 at 02:35 AM
Arthur, very true and I am amazed how some people just can't seem to let it go and move on :) Seriously, Maybe I should of posted all my permits, taxes and blah blah blah, funny thing is though I don't think she would get it then either.
Antonio February 16, 2013 at 04:08 AM
Your not even close. I deal with facts, logic reason. Your base is bias and B.S. It irritates you because I call you out on it. Debating with you isn't challenging. I can tell you and the other right-wingers don't have a lot of knowledge.
Carl Petersen III February 16, 2013 at 04:59 AM
Arthur Spooner 12:04 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013 "http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=281471" . . Some guy says it on a message board. It must be true.
Carl Petersen III February 16, 2013 at 05:03 AM
One Voice 10:49 am on Friday, February 15, 2013 "Lyn, let it go I am not obligated to provide you with and facts to support my statement," . . Why would you be opposed to presenting facts to back up your statement? Wouldn't that make your point better?
Arthur Spooner February 16, 2013 at 06:46 AM
HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Arthur Spooner February 16, 2013 at 06:47 AM
I cant back up that liberals are weak and conservatives love America. How is that ??
Arthur Spooner February 16, 2013 at 03:48 PM
Would you like One Voice to fax you tax invoices and copies of every single permit they are required to carry?? I would like to see you start and run a business.
One Voice February 16, 2013 at 06:04 PM
Please explain how the taxpayers are subsidized to pay to regulate for-profit business.
Arthur Spooner February 16, 2013 at 06:17 PM
One Voice, I commend you on being able to operate a business and stay sane in this state. The hoops you go through must be so frustrating. Kudos to you!!
Arthur Spooner February 16, 2013 at 06:19 PM
Waiting for this answer, I have my coffee in hand.
Frankie February 16, 2013 at 06:41 PM
Clearly in the State of California, the EPA has taken measures to ensure that businesses that use chemicals are in compliance, for instance a business that once used solvents is no longer allowed to use them and have been forced to use a biodegradable soap solution. Bushinesses also pay the EPA a fee yearly of $350.00 so that they can come out and inspect them. Riverside County now requires that all business pay a $350.00 fee yearly for a storm drain permit, even if that business is not actively connected to that storm drain, i.e a multi tenant complex. This also pertains to the newly required Sewer permit by the EVMWD at $350.00 a year, all businesses are required to pay this fee also yearly, again if you are in a multi tenant complex each business pays this fee, even though the owner of that building already pays it, now each tenant is also charged the fee. Just some requirements of a business within the area. The list in lengthy and costly and changes yearly depending on how the County and Cities can be creative to find another way to get another piece of the business owners profit.
One Voice February 16, 2013 at 06:54 PM
Thanks Arthur, just the EPA fee's, re-cycle fee's and insurances are overwhelming and it changes yearly, if people had a clue.
Antonio February 17, 2013 at 05:12 AM
You don't know anything about me so speculating shows how foolish you are. Do you advocate polluting our water, air and earth? When you criticize the environmental fees the government imposes on profit and non-profit organizations it's to cover their actual costs of environmental regulation. The fees must pass muster with the auditors and be approved by elected officials in a public meeting. Put your money where your mouth is and attend a city council or County Board meeting and challenge the fees. It's your government.
One Voice February 18, 2013 at 04:35 AM
LYN: Could you be so kind to answer this question please: Please explain how the taxpayers are subsidized to pay to regulate for-profit business.
Carl Petersen III February 18, 2013 at 05:01 AM
Arthur Spooner 7:51 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013 " I would like to see you start and run a business." . . I have and my wife currently runs her own.
Arthur Spooner February 18, 2013 at 06:12 AM
Carl the unemployment rate and the number of people in California who do not work are actually not the same. Just because someone is unemployed does not mean they are on unemployment.
Arthur Spooner February 18, 2013 at 06:14 AM
Carl, real business? With employees and brick and mortar?? We are not talking AMWAY or someone other multi level marketing business. Scentsy or Pampered chef. Real business paying payroll taxes, and work comp insurance. THE REAL THING!!!!!
The Teller of Truth February 18, 2013 at 06:55 AM
@ Arthur, Please don't feed the trolls here so he may annoy people closer to home. Thank you.
Carl Petersen III February 18, 2013 at 05:34 PM
Arthur Spooner 1 hour ago "Carl, real business? With employees and brick and mortar?? We are not talking AMWAY or someone other multi level marketing business. Scentsy or Pampered chef. Real business paying payroll taxes, and work comp insurance. THE REAL THING!!!!!" . . Although I wouldn't I wouldn't disparage anyone with the types of businesses that you described, mine was not one of those. In today's economy I didn't realize that brick and motor was required to own a business that sold products both Internationally and Domestically. My wife does, however, have all those things you require for a "real" business. Any other questions?
Arthur Spooner February 20, 2013 at 02:25 AM
Carl real business , no EBAY, or ETSY . With employees that have work comp and benefits and pay roll taxes.
Carl Petersen III February 20, 2013 at 05:07 PM
Arthur Spooner 6:41 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013 "Carl real business , no EBAY, or ETSY . With employees that have work comp and benefits and pay roll taxes." . . Although I did sell some items through EBAY, most shipments went truck loads and pallets shipped across the ocean. The orders were large enough to require letters of credit. Didn't need employees, so I did not have to deal with workers comp. My wife's business does include employees, worker's comp and payroll taxes, so I am well aware of these requirements. Any other questions.

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