'Obamacare' Upheld By Supreme Court: How's Your Heart Feeling Today?

What's your pulse on this?

With less than six months to go before the November election, the Supreme Court has handed President Barack Obama a victory: It has upheld his federal health care law, otherwise known as the Affordable Care Act.

The high court announced Thursday, in a 5-4 decision, that it was upholding the most controversial part of the law, which is that most individuals must buy health insurance or pay a penalty.

The decision means the health care reform will move forward over the next several years, affecting the way people receive and pay for personal medical care. About 30 million of the 50 million uninsured Americans will get coverage in 2014. Click here for an easy roadmap to what it all means.

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney is dubbing himself the next best hope for the millions of Americans who wanted to see the law overturned, despite signing a health care law on which the president's federal law was modeled during his tenure as Massachusetts governor.

Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus told The Associated Press that the decision sets the stakes for the Nov. 6 election.

"Now, the only way to save the country from Obamacare's budget-busting government takeover of health care is to elect a new president," Priebus said.

The Associated Press reports polling shows most Americans oppose the law, but an overwhelming majority want Congress and the president to find a new remedy.

Kevin - Wildomar CA July 06, 2012 at 08:30 PM
________________________ Cindy, feel free to correct my following statements. I won't bite. 1. We are not the richest country in the world. We have debt which = negative worth. This is an interesting website, VERY SOBERING (will only take a second or two) http://www.usdebtclock.org/ 2. My friend in UK says their national healthcare is only decent for preventive care and maintenance care. You're in a bad situation in the event of an urgent or sudden matter. MARTHA: your comment "We must stop clinging to the current "for profit" healthcare systems" Let me ask you, profit is often a motive for repeat business. To get repeat business, services must be pleasing to the consumer. Outrageous profit is exploitation, but a reasonable profit is fair and is a motivation to provide quality care. Where am I wrong?
DDMH July 06, 2012 at 08:33 PM
Thanks Cindy for your patience. I wanted to say that I get rather impatient with having to spend my time on the same narrow minded "I've got mine" rhetoric. It's no wonder we see the destruction of freedom and justice for us all. But the wealthy 1%'ers and the corporations will go on in perpetuity as we the people squabble over our little pieces of the playground. I am not a 99%'er I am a 70%'er and I am doing quite well thank you, but that doesn't mean that I should take an inhumane political view toward those who have little or less than I have. Once we become inhumane we lose humanity. And if that's "uppity" (not sure I can even spell it!) as I was called on here a few days ago, then SO BE IT!
DDMH July 06, 2012 at 08:52 PM
Duh A.G, That bumper sticker was probably produced by the insurance companies who don't like being told that they need to give everyone a rebate come August if they have been found overcharging under the 80/20 provision in the ACA (Affordable Care Act). That was really what this big "boogey man" fight was all about. Corporations are having to give you more for your premium dollar if they want to play and have your business. What a terrible thing to make them have to do. Why I can't imagine why we would want to make them have to do that to the American People! But no you want them to continue cherry picking only the healthy to cover and "death- paneling" the rest of those who have pre-existings or who got sick or injured and have a costly illness. Are you an insurance company exec. or a business owner who is having a struggle staying in business because the playing field and your buying power are not equal or fair? I feel for you but you are mad at the wrong folks. I would like to have your passion and writing skills on our side for the reasons that make us stronger, healthier, safer and happier and the reasons that grow our future and bring us together as One United People who can DO Great Things. Wouldn't that FEEL SO MUCH BETTER AND HAPPIER THAN WHAT THE HATE IS DOING FOR US NOW. ISN'T BUILDING THINGS AND RELATIONSHIPS BETTER THAN PULLING THINGS AND PEOPLE APART?
Tonto July 06, 2012 at 10:24 PM
I know where there are a dozen illegals that need your compassion shall I bring em over ?
julie dawson July 06, 2012 at 11:09 PM
The government has difficulty over seeing the post office, and now their going to run health care?
Cindy Petersen July 07, 2012 at 12:08 AM
Kevin, (1)Don't confuse debt with wealth. The U.S. is the wealthiest country in the world: http://www.aneki.com/richest.html. Indeed if I look at the websites that compare the nationall debt by country we are high but not yet listed among the 10 worst in the world. By the way, if you look at this figure from year to year we were in the same bad shape, percentage-wize, during the Bush years. (2) Once again I say that not every system of national health care is the same.
julie dawson July 07, 2012 at 12:13 AM
I will be acused of being a racist and I'm sure many other nasty comments will come my way, I dont really care because I know I'm not. Pulling out the race card at every turn is really getting old Martha, shame on you! I agree with Cindy on a few ideas. We need to look at what other countries have done correctly, and implement them into our health care system. The health care system in the U.S. is by far the greatest in the world even with all of its flaws. If you live in Canada, and your diagnosed with a brain tumor, that is known for rapid metastisis, you will have to wait for your MRI, those with money who most likely have worked their whole life, come here for rapid life saving treatment. Research costs money. More has got to be done to control health care costs, I agree greed is out of control, and we need major reform. Lets start with the pharmacutical companies, they pay the FDA to fast track their drugs, not only is it a conflict of intrest, it's unsafe, and leads to law suit after law suit. It's about money and greed not safety, and many are left sick or dead. Maybe someone knows the law im referring to, congress passes it every 5 years, and both parties vote in favor. Reform has to control costs. An MRI sould have one cost nation wide, and it should be fair and reasonable. I'm sure now someone will say, dont you know that's how socialized medicine is run?
julie dawson July 07, 2012 at 12:34 AM
I dont believe socialized medicine is the answer. This is what I believe, we have to look world wide and see what works, and implement it into our health care system. This wont happen until both parties, work together and put the welfare of the American people before money. If Obama care leads to socialized medicine, the greatest health care system in the world will be gone. Their has to be a compromise, and that will only occur when both parties work together. Obama care is not there yet. For those of you out there, that are so far right and left, that so politely belittle those who dont agree with you, I say to you .... You are part of the problem not the solution. To arrogant to see another persons view, so you resort to abuse. I have faith in America, and I believe eventually we will solve the health care crisis, but it will take many years, and compromise.
Martha L. Bridges July 07, 2012 at 02:45 AM
AG, Actually there are many, many top notch doctors who seek to work in HMOs and other medical systems where they are free of having to play the business manager and negotiator with the insurance companies and BIG PHARMA. They can concentrate on practicing good medicine and doing the research to improve care and outcomes.
Martha L. Bridges July 07, 2012 at 02:48 AM
Kevin, you are not wrong to bring these questions up. How else can we find answers? Your concerns are honest considerations that need to be examined and be included in any intelligent discussion of healthcare systems and changes. At heart, I believe deeply in a controlled and regulated capitalist system. At its best it encourages innovation and allows fresh ideas to rise in the marketplace. However, much of our current healthcare system is producing outrageous profit, is exploitive in nature and leaves millions of people out of the equation. As Cindy said so well, we need to look at other systems and choose the best parts of those systems to incorporate into our new one - carefully avoiding the pitfalls many of them have experienced. I have the advantage of having worked for a quarter of a century for one of the largest American HMOs, and have seen firsthand the tremendous improvements and cost savings that they can achieve while delivering high quality healthcare. Their hospitals and clinics are truly non-profit, and they have a vested interest in keeping people well. When a member is serious injured or struck with a serious illness, the doctors can order whatever treatments are needed without waiting for some insurance company to OK the care or surgery. We do need to change the current system, and while imperfect and unfinished, Obamacare is a good starting place. Healthcare and its costs are too big an issue not to approach it on a national level.
Constant Comment July 07, 2012 at 04:07 AM
@Julie Dawson "Pulling out the race card is really getting old Martha, shame on you!" Right on Julie! I couldn't agree with you more!
Constant Comment July 07, 2012 at 04:11 AM
@ Julie Dawson, Again spot on with your comments about arrogant people on here abusing the innocents with their polite belittlements & then don't have the self confidence to admit that their wrong & apologize. (M.B.)
Constant Comment July 07, 2012 at 04:25 AM
DDMH, you weren't being called uppidity (above) for being inhumane. You were being called that because you took off someones head that was only trying to help you see what ONE VOICE was trying to say. It was a simple attempt at clarification, not correction. It did not warrant your attack. One Voice also came back on to confirm that clarification. Being judgemental is human but is it necessary.
Constant Comment July 07, 2012 at 04:47 AM
@ A.G. Right on! "People that are weak minded run to that (race card) everytime and use it as a crutch. It 'IS' getting very old!" Good for you to speak your mind as this always bears repeating!
DDMH July 07, 2012 at 09:05 AM
Today, the Department of Health and Human Services announced that thanks to the Affordable Care Act, 3.1 million young Americans—who would otherwise be uninsured—have been able to stay on their parents’ health insurance plans until they turn 26. That’s 3.1 million more people with access to preventive care, like checkups and flu shots. It’s 3.1 million more people who can afford the coverage they need to stay healthy. It’s 3.1 million more young people who don’t have to worry about putting their careers and their dreams on hold if they get sick. What's so awful about these FACTS?
DDMH July 07, 2012 at 09:20 AM
Most Americans, like you, already have private health insurance. President Obama's Affordable Care Act doesn't change that—but it makes your insurance better and more affordable. Today, your insurance company... Can no longer waste your premium on CEO salaries and overhead costs Must use at least 80 percent of your premium for health services and improving care Has to justify any hikes to your premium before an independent panel—helping keep your rate down In August you might even get a rebate if you insurance company has been keeping most of your premium rather than spending it to provide you the care you need. So when your rebate check comes and they tell you it's their way of being nice guys,yada yada, you'll know the real reason you are getting it is the 80/20 rule in the A.C.A....80% of every premium dollar must go to providing health care to their insured not corporate care to themselves.
DDMH July 07, 2012 at 09:22 AM
If you are a woman; Health care shouldn’t be your biggest worry. Plans are beginning to offer free preventive health services like mammograms, screenings for colon cancer, and regular blood pressure and cholesterol checks. Insurance companies can no longer put a lifetime cap on the amount of care they’ll cover, or cancel your coverage over a mistake in your paperwork. And by 2014, they can no longer charge you more than a man for the same plan, and no one can be denied insurance due to a pre-existing condition.
DDMH July 07, 2012 at 09:26 AM
If you're a man they can deny you mammograms but plans are beginning to offer free preventive health services like regular blood pressure and cholesterol checks, and screenings for things like colon cancer, prostate tests for cancer and diabetes. And, insurance companies can no longer put a lifetime cap on the amount of care they’ll cover, or cancel your coverage over a mistake in your paperwork—and by 2014, no one can be denied insurance due to a pre-existing condition.
DDMH July 07, 2012 at 09:31 AM
Your kids are now covered if you have insurance Your children can now stay on your family health insurance plan until they turn 26. Your children can no longer be denied coverage based on a pre-existing condition like asthma or diabetes or even birth defects. And preventive services like checkups and childhood immunizations are covered without a co-pay or deductible. Really isn't this just awful. This is really the height of Socialism and Communism all rolled up into a disguise of forcing you to be healthy. How dare they be so bold to think you might want something better for yourself or even your kids!
DDMH July 07, 2012 at 09:38 AM
If your income is between $36,000-$108,000 The A.C.A. will be helping you save on your premium Starting in 2014, your family will qualify for tax credits that can make insurance more affordable—helping save a typical middle-class family 60 percent on premiums. If you lose the health insurance you have from work, or want to change jobs or start a business, you'll be able to use these tax credits to shop for the best plan for you in your state's new Affordable Insurance Exchange. If your income is above $108,00 The A.C.A. will be helping you save on your premium Starting in 2014, your family will be able to shop for coverage in a new Affordable Insurance Exchange. If you lose the health insurance you have from work, or want to change jobs or start a business, you'll be able to shop in a market where insurance companies will have to compete on price and quality, and where you can see all your options in one place—and you can't be denied coverage or charged more based on a pre-existing condition.
DDMH July 07, 2012 at 09:46 AM
In case you didn't want to read all of the above let me briefly share and sum up the facts about health care today in the U.S.A. As a result of legislation fought for and won DESPITE an obstructionist Republican congress and a filibustering, so you can't even discuss or vote on anything, minority holding the senate hostage we have the following benefits. Affordable premiums No more lifetime caps Free preventive care, like cancer screenings and flu shots Your kids can stay on your insurance until they turn 26. Your kids can no longer be denied coverage for a pre-existing condition, like asthma.
DDMH July 07, 2012 at 10:03 AM
Can we just deal with the facts? Providing security to working families Working families are protected from losing their health care or being forced into bankruptcy when a family member gets sick or is in an accident. Families have the security of knowing their health insurance will be there when they need it most. Insurance companies are now required to justify rate hikes, and consumers have the ability to appeal to an independent third party when insurance companies refuse to cover services or care. Starting in 2014, all Americans will have access to affordable health insurance no matter their circumstances—whether they change jobs, lose their job, decide to start a business, or retire early. Purchasing private insurance in the new state-based health insurance exchanges could save middle-class families who can’t get employer-provided insurance thousands of dollars. Once fully implemented, the law will slow health care premium growth rates, adding another $2,000 to family savings by 2019. The law is expected to reduce the deficit by $127 billion from 2012 to 2021.
DDMH July 07, 2012 at 10:06 AM
Let's just cut to the chase! It's about the money. YOUR MONEY POSSIBLY COMING SOON TO A MAILBOX NEAR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's about KEEPING HEALTH CARE COSTS LOW Before health reform, insurance premiums were skyrocketing, and the shared cost of caring for the uninsured added $1,000 to the typical family’s policy. The Affordable Care Act promotes better value through preventive and coordinated care, and eliminates waste and abuses. The Affordable Care Act also helps keep insurance premiums down. Insurance companies must publicly justify excessive rate hikes and provide rebates if they don’t spend at least 80 percent of premiums on care instead of overhead, marketing, and profits. As many as 9 million consumers are expected to get up to $1.4 billion in rebates because the President passed the Affordable Care Act starting in August of this year!
DDMH July 07, 2012 at 10:21 AM
Ending lifetime limits Before the Affordable Care Act, more than half of all private insurance plans included a lifetime limit on coverage—and nearly 20,000 people hit a lifetime cap each year. The Affordable Care Act banned these caps, and those who had already hit a lifetime limit will be eligible for unlimited coverage. You really think this is a bad law for you and your families? Are you really in favor of repealing something that now protects you from the greed of corporations who really created hundreds of thousands of death panels as they cancelled and denied folks who were in need of coverage everyday just to keep their profits up and your cost to them down no matter how sick you were. You really have drunk the koolaide and want to put everyone's lives back in the hands of those who did this to you? WOW, now I have truly been amazed!
DDMH July 07, 2012 at 10:29 AM
Too sleepy to be effective or to type very well. Gotta run. I've given my fellow Lake Elsinore Americans enough of my precious sleep, computer time, bet and sincerest information, and feelings on this topic. Hope you'll read the above and figure out who has your back and how we ALL have been given a chance to get out of the mess we are in. NIGHT SHIFT OUT.
Martha L. Bridges July 07, 2012 at 02:16 PM
This might be helpful in answering some questions about ACA: Read the Law | HealthCare.gov http://www.healthcare.gov/ http://search.healthcare.gov/search?q=full+text+of+the+Affordable+Care+Act&ud=1&sort=date%3AD%3AL%3Ad1&output=xml_no_dtd&site=healthcare&client=healthcare&proxystylesheet=healthcare&proxyreload=1&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&btnG.x=13&btnG.y=13
Caroline G. Ross July 08, 2012 at 02:26 AM
To Constant Comment and anyone else who thinks the sentence "Thank you for elevating the discussion with your comments One Voice. I would hope that we are on a similar path" means that the writer thought One Voice's viewpoint was elevating the discussion of the particular subject of healthcare (Obamacare)...I read what DDMH wrote and neither the quoted sentence nor any part of her posting, in its entirety, suggests that DDMH believed that to be the case. I interpret what she wrote to indicate that DDMH believes One Voice's viewpoint was...elevating the conduct of discourse on the blog, not the elevation of the healthcare subject matter. I don't think it was necessary for certain individuals to "explain, clarify, or help her see the forest for the trees." DDMH seems bright enough and to have mastered reading comprehension enough to figure it out for herself. And, her taking issue with someone taking it upon themselves to explain it to her, is neither uppity nor angry. She was , after all, just trying to clarify for others what they seemed unable to understand for themselves. If DDMH disputes my interpretation, I welcome her clarification.
Constant Comment July 08, 2012 at 03:59 AM
@ Carolyn, That's right "she was only trying to clarify for others what they seemed unable to understand...." One Voice already said that 'Cat' was 'correct'. This issue is old news. Seems like you "enjoy chewin on old bones" !
DDMH July 09, 2012 at 08:01 AM
DDMH 12:59 am on Monday, July 9, 2012 To: Caroline G. Ross's post @ 7:27 pm on Saturday, July 7, 2012 Thank you Caroline for that. Nice to know that I am not a voice in the wilderness and that someone can and does understand and brings a very clear and fair point of view. Nice to be on the same side of this discussion with you. Health Care for ALL is a very wonderful and about time thing in this country...just like a woman's right to vote, the end of child labor, The Civil Rights Act, Social Security, and Medicare just to name a few things that Democrats have to their credit.
Caroline G. Ross July 21, 2012 at 03:10 PM
Did you know? Senator Scott Brown (republican), who won office vowing to be the 41st vote to block President Obama’s health care law and who has since voted three times to repeal the Affordable Care Act (ACA/Obamacare), acknowledged that HE TAKES ADVANTAGE OF IT to keep his elder daughter on his congressional health insurance plan. “Of course I do,’’ the Massachusetts Republican told the Globe. Brown is insuring his daughter Ayla, a professional singer who is 23 years old, under a widely popular provision of ACA/Obamacare requiring that family plans cover children up to age 26. What do you think of this?


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