A bill that would require local jail officials to release some illegal immigrants from custody has concerned Riverside County Sheriff Stan Sniff.
In a letter to Governor Jerry Brown Friday, the sheriff is calling for a veto of AB 1081, otherwise known as the Trust Act.
If signed by the governor, would prohibit local law enforcement agencies from detaining an illegal immigrant for deportation at the request of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) if that person is eligible for release from criminal custody.
Sniff wrote that enforcing U.S. immigration law is a federal responsibility with “shortfalls.”
“In the decade after 9/11, and in response to shortfalls in our national Homeland Security, we have honed close partnerships between federal, state, and local enforcement that this [bill] now directly undermines,” Sniff wrote. “In addition, law enforcement agencies have executed legal agreements that are directly impacted by this bill, and we potentially place at risk of cancelation or repayment, millions of dollars in federal grant funds of all types where we certify compliance with federal laws. Or worse, we face years of protracted legal disputes, which will waste scarce county funds that are already very constrained.
“For these reasons,” Sniff continued, “I oppose Assembly Bill 1081 and respectfully request that you veto this measure.”
The state Assembly passed the bill in May; the state Senate passed it in early July.
The bill’s lead author Assemblyman Tom Ammiano (D-San Francisco), said, “[The] vote signals to the nation that California cannot afford .”
“The bill ... limits unjust and onerous detentions for deportation in local jails of community members who do not pose a threat to public safety," he said.
The immigration detentions "are a drain on local resources" because state and local law enforcement agencies are not reimbursed by the feds for the , according to the legislation's text.
AB 1081 would still allow immigration detainers to be placed on people who have not been released from criminal custody or have a serious or violent felony conviction.
Ammiano contends the Trust Act was introduced in February 2011 as a response to the federal "Secure Communities" or S-Comm deportation program, which the assemblyman describes as a parallel to . Under S-Comm, the FBI automatically sends fingerprints to ICE to check against its immigration databases. If the checks show a person is in the country illegally,
Angela F. Chan, senior staff attorney at the Asian Law Caucus, a nonprofit civil rights organization located in San Francisco, said S-Comm encourages racial profiling by law enforcement.
"About 76 percent of the 2,460 residents deported under the S-Comm program from Riverside County are individuals without criminal records or those arrested for lesser offenses, including misdemeanors and traffic violations," Chan said.
As of early July, 72,000 people in California had been removed from the country under S-Comm and seven in 10 were deported with either no conviction or for minor offenses, Ammiano contends.
But ICE defends S-Comm.
“Secure Communities has proven to be the single most valuable tool in allowing the agency to eliminate the ad hoc approach of the past and focus on criminal aliens and repeat immigration law violators,” according to ICE Western Regional Communications Director Virginia Kice.
“Since ICE implemented Secure Communities in Oct. 2008 [through April 30, 2012, the initiative has resulted in the removal of 189,744 persons [nationwide]. Nearly 75 percent of those individuals [141,005] had prior criminal convictions,” Kice said. ( to read about ICE's defense of its policy.)
without a VOTE FROM THE USA CITIZENS? I must be ignorant but I thought making a decision like Brown did is not right, its we the people that vote, and since when can these Governors or Presidents just make these decisions on these topics on their own. Especially when they involved LAWS that are BEING BROKEN on thousands and thousands of these people that walk our streets everyday that are easy to pick up? and ship OUT. Why isnt anything we say or do listened to, and they cannot do this stuff? Seriously college educations when we have millions of our children that we have paid for all of our lives in taxes that should be going? This is the main issue in our Country because getting them OUT of here NOW, cut off AID immediately and see how fast they go back home. Cut off medical, schooling, college, low income housing, all of it. They have 30 days to get out once and for all, we are done! We would be back on the road to financial recovery within 3 months on how much we would save monthly. It is going to take a Civil WAR, and somehow the California people holding Brown responsibile for NOT enforcing the illegals laws and shipping them all out NOW. Yes they voted him in, and for that reason he is doing all this, but its time he is held accountable for aiding and abettingl
where police officers wont even go or firemen. Where they rob and commit crimes out of their cities and bring it all back to their homes knowing no one will ever investigate them as they get shot at as soon as their car enters the "neighborhood". Now its filthy homes, and yards, with junk, trash, battered old cars piled in the front yard, on the streets, filthy kids with no respect for anyone or anything. ON the weekends its music blaring and 50 men out in the yard with case upon case of beer. Sleeping all week or keep getting drunk, beer bottles and cans piled high.
Had a neighbor girl, with 2 daughters go through that program. She was a legal citizen. Now illegals should NOT even be here so this is not in regards to them but to our own Citzens who are on aid programs because yes, it has always been abused by our own citizens with drug, alcohol, mental problems or just plain lazy people, or do I say trailor type that live for generations and know the systems. Most of these people need to be checked for drug and alcohol as you mention Roberto, and helped by new rehab facilities we could bring back if the aid to illegals is gone, kaput, overwith. You are right, the program should always be the same, working 8 hours at a job that we have had cutbacks and need help, ie Department of Motor Vehicles, Aid offices, County offices, road work and clean up and on and on and on. There are millions of jobs unfilled because of cut backs these men and women could do. And it all needs to be followed up on, and also condoms given out, and that no more aid will be given for anymore chlidren.
You will see some men working down there on the streets, with the military, and some at the hotels. Speaking to these men they do crave something better in their life then 60 or 80 bucks a week for all those hours they make running all day and night. These particular Mexicans do work their butts off, but they are few and far between. In the USA its the same, and also the ones you see working in fields have resident and work permits, so everyone needs to stop thinking these are illegals, they are NOT. These are the ones who do come here with papers and take any jobs they can get and some working 2 or 3 jobs. They do not have pride or anything else stopping them, they do the paperwork, they have the WANT BAD to be American with their wife and children. Illegals continue to do the illegal drug work and wife collects while they pay their indenture to the Jefe who paid to bring them here to transport drugs.
So in reality there is no arguing about it, and as I read everyones threads I see everyone saying the same thing but yet a bit different so a bit of a argue tiff is exchanged when its not necessary. We should be learning how to go about getting the situation changed in California and I think it was Diane perhaps and also Airbourne Ranger gave us laws and statements and who to write to about this issue to start the ball rolling. We have to do something as it breaks my heart, soul and spirit at my age to see what my daughters and my grandson will have to be raised in :/ I do not want to leave this country that my family and all of you and your families, and those of you who came here legally and worked for your citizenship, did it the legal way, to turn into Northern Mexico, or Big TJ, or full of Muslim churches that just appear out of nowhere with millions upon millons of dollars to build them, leave this country where there is no place for the few Americans left to live safely, etc. etc. etc. we can all see how this will turn out unless something is done by US, the USA Citizens because these idiots in office fighting over "chairs" do not give a chit.
Federally, it is the USGs job to secure our borders in accordance with the US Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. The term enemy does not necessarily have to mean military conflict. It also means the American way of life. Our economic, our social and or moral ways of life. Since nearly all benefits are generated through the state it is the states responsibility to determine how to "wisely" spend the taxes that are rendered by the citizens of the state to fund state functions. As long as we the tax payer allow the state to spend our tax dollars on other that legitimate expenses for the benefit of the tax payer then we lose. Neither Republican or Democrat parties are about the people. They are both about power and control of the people. Don't let the slogans from either side fool you. There is not a politician in office today that is willing to be like the rest of the people he/she represents. They all believe that they are elected not to represent the people but to make decisions for the people. In to many cases they don't believe that the American people can make decisions for themselves. When was the last time your Rep asked you or your community how they should vote on a bill. My guess is never, so how can either side say that they are for the people. Both sides are there to rule the people. Think about that one.
Dr. Adrian Pierce Rogers
However there a few from another Patch who will say, type things, and follow each other around, to continue a battle. You will run into them eventually and for some reason name calling, or thinly disquised name calling and insults is the norm. We all have different opinions and sometimes those differences can help you see something differently and perhaps the same as someone else, it sure has me. Its like a discussion group with your employee's were you start out nice and complimentary and then add the butt.........then end it on a positive note and complimentary again. To bring about a cohesive and adult conversation which at times some of the high schoolers appear to do better then a few adults here. LOL. We have great editors who get stories out with information given to them, and get it out fast with the new Breaking Alerts to emails and cells, and great follow up on stories. Some of the few "bashers or angry folks", that will be their names, just sit and wait for a editor to make a typo for heavens sake just to tear them apart. Its ridiculous as they are great and informative, doing it quick to get the news out to us. It has actually been quieter the last week or so and I hope it stays that way, its much nicer and makes for great reading, and exchanging on what we can do as a group for our community!
1. We lost thousands of USA citizens to 9/11 and the subsequent war. Why? To free them and their country! So wouldnt they wish to build churches there, develop their country with all the help we furnish as far as schools, training, hospitals, etc. etc? Train to build new homes, and farm, and support themselves? Its a whole new world and opportunities but they sit back drinking and eating the foods we supply on their dirt porches and tunnels they live in. 2. They come to the USA, land of the free to teach the USA citizens they are not bad. We will open churches with gold, tapestries, grand entrances and depictions in gold and marble for you to see and understand muslims. Its a free country for everyone and every religion! We will get free food, medical, houses! 3. Where did the 5000 members of the Temecula Muslim church get the 25 million to build their eye sore church? "Oh, all 5k of us have worked and saved to get enough money to build our church, Of course we did not get it from others in Iraq or terrorists, but they would be mad if you didnt let us build our church here"!! They do NOT belong here. Why do we let them in to build lives here from mysterious money. We fought to free them and their country, so they would have pride, not to bring them here!
Not always dum. I will say I do not agree with you on the blacks. They did not come here voluntarily. They were forced over as SLAVES for richer whites who came to the US and needed workers to pick fields of cotton. The blacks did not want to be taken from their homes, brought to the US to be slaves. Blacks were never illegals in this country and all here now are most likely not illegal as they are desendents from those first blacks forced to come to the America's as slaves so many many years ago. There might be a few africa residents who are here illegally, but I do not believe very many. Blacks are as much a part of this country as whites, and have been here nearly just as long to help build this country. Sure because of the discrimination they did not get the years head starts we did, while they were being denied jobs and houses. But they finally through perseverance hung in there and that is why we have so many accomplished blacks today in all industries, lawyers, doctors, real estate, investiments, everything and anything. Yes there are tough ass blacks as there are tough ass white guys, like hells angels, and white supremacy guys, and Asian gangs. There are always bad apples in every group/nationality and those are the ones to be racist against, the bad apples of all colors who kill, rob, assault, and need to be in jail. We aren't discussing racism against blacks here Guy. I hope my explanation helps you realize that. Blacks were slaves.
I didnt think about the muslims in prison and how much they actually fight and beat the other inmates to get them to believe in their ways. Which I never could understand beating, raping others to get them to believe in your or their God. Would definately make me despise them more then ever even accept them as a human being much less their religion considered a boni fide one allowed in the USA. Alot in the quaran teaches violence and men being superior to women like what we see as cave man days. Men eat first, women and children after the men get all they want, and they eat standing up in the kitchen area. I do not remember all of the exerpts I have seen over the years by pastors over the years but its things I would never believe in. We in the USA have freedom of religion, but that means also USA, as in American Citizens who were included in that good ole Constitution and Bill of Rights. So your anger would definately be justified at the moment being in prison. But also God teaches us to not hate our fellow man and hopefully you just will not think about the 5 yrs you did, and forget what you went through or were being forced to hear. Must have been a terrible things and I bet you will never so much as miss a stop sign in the future. Best wishes and best of luck on jobs an life too GodGuy.
189k is not even a dent in California's illegals.Then count in all the children born here from the illegal parents. Coyotes know a pregnant woman is worth ALOT, so to transport their fees are 5k or MORE instead of a mans 2k. Women are more expensive and then you get the child bearing ones,11 and up, and they pay 3500+ for a ride. So, to the 40 to 50 million illegals you can add at least 1 child but its more then likely 2 to 3 per illegal mother. ***GASP*** There is no joking here when I say that Illegals have not only taken over Cities in California(Get the list Brown rallied in and you will know)but they are well on the way to taking it over completely. When we have a Governor that "YOU the PEOPLE" voted into office, makes his first really big move to improve California, what does he do? He gives college educations away to Illegals. Now what kind of sense does that make? We are broke, we have far bigger fish to fry then even giving away college educations to our own LEGAL people, and he gives them to Illegals? This is a sick man, sick sick. Now his 2nd big move is to NOT deport illegals right? Great........what happened to cleaning up California financially and crime etc? These people cannot take care of themselves in Mexico, how in the world do you expect them to ever take care of themselves HERE and get OFF our aid programs? DOH! Save California, get them off our AID, DEPORT THEM. I guarantee California pays the most out in aid in this country.