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WILDOMAR PARKS POLL: Will You Pay $28 A Year To Fund City Parks?

Attached are the arguments for and against Measure Z. Also attached is an impartial analysis of Measure Z as drafted by Wildomar City Attorney Thomas Jex.

On November 6, Wildomar voters will decide whether they want to pay an annual $28 special tax to fund their city parks.

The ballot initiative called Measure Z will be put to voters on Election Day, and if it does not pass by a two-third's majority the city contends there is not enough money in its budget to keep the parks open.

In 2011, a similar initiative --

Attached are the arguments for and against Measure Z. These arguments will be published verbatim in voter materials.

Also attached is an impartial analysis of Measure Z as drafted by Wildomar City Attorney Thomas Jex.

To read all three documents, click on the attached PDFs.

The following is the final language of Measure Z. Voters will be asked to vote Yes or No to show their support for or against:

Measure to Save Wildomar Community Parks.

To reopen closed community parks, prevent closure

of Marna O'Brien Park (the last open City park),

restore funding for recreational services/community

events, maintain safe playground equipment, clean

public restrooms, sports fields, and youth/children's

recreation/after-school programs, restore park

security patrols/safety lighting, and remove graffiti;

shall the City of Wildomar levy $28/parcel annually,

with required independent financial audits, and

requiring that all funds are used locally?

Martha L. Bridges August 27, 2012 at 01:52 PM
I note that Teller doesn't deny what I am saying above. What's the matter, don't you and your little (as in a few people) gang like being exposed for what you are and what your true purpose is? It's very comfortable to hide behind your fake names and feel like you have the protection of anonymity, but that is a false sense of security. It also reveals your gang’s collective conceit about the lack of Wildomar voters’ intelligence. You presume that they are not smart enough to figure out your devious purpose. I have more faith in them and their ability to see the truth. There goes Teller making up stuff to suit his own purposes, and I expect that Karen and other good people see through his obvious attempts at manipulation. He presumes to know me, presumes his assumptions or will be accepted as true, when in fact they are simply attempts to slander me and detract from my effectiveness in getting a different point of view across to people. He reveals his real intentions for all to see when he ends his rant with a plea for your vote on Measure "Z" - a completely unnecessary special tax for parks - and has the effrontery to invoke god's blessing on his request.
Ken Mayes August 27, 2012 at 02:23 PM
O'Boy I love the it's only game. Its only 8 cents a day which means the city is going to spend only $958.90 per day, every day of the year, to maintain and operate 14 acres of parks. In New York City the average annual cost per acre the maintain and operate a park is $9,555 an acre per year, Wildomar wants to spend $25,000 per acre per year.
Martha L. Bridges August 27, 2012 at 07:31 PM
That right, Ken. The City of Wildomar is not being straight forward with the voters about the parks maintenance costs and the fact that Measure "Z" is asking for about twice the money they need to take care of the parks. The numbers they are using don't add up, unless they are counting on having an open ended slush fund each and every year. All this talk about the tax costing a few cents a day is meant to distract voters from the overall cost of $350,000.00 per year. 1 Yr. @ $350,000 or 10 yrs. @ $3,500.000.00 or 20 yrs. @ $7,000.000.00, Yes &7,000,000.00 (million) and they want you to think about it as small change. You are correct, the city's maintenance costs don't add up; they are at least twice what are needed to take care of the parks. That's unless one of the council cronies is given a no bid contract under the table. And, why, you might ask did the city wait until the parks were in trouble before seeking out cost cutting measures? Because they don't want to trim the bureaucratic waste in the general fund budget and reallocate the money to our parks.
Ken Mayes August 27, 2012 at 08:39 PM
Sometimes I could throttle you. 350K is too big a number for most people to grasp. Keep it simple just like they do. $28.00 a year divided by 365 days equals .076 cents a day times 12500 parcels equals $950.00 per day everyday of the year.
Constant Comment August 29, 2012 at 04:49 PM
@Ken, "Sometimes I could throttle you"? Should you be threatening Marfa like that? i would mark that as being 'inappropriate' but I think I'll leave it alone cause it's too funny! }~)
Constant Comment August 29, 2012 at 04:52 PM
Marfa, you will find many people on vacation right around the different holiday dates. If thats not his case, he already did answer you with "Get some help!!!!!!!!!!!" }~)
Mike Deigan August 29, 2012 at 10:08 PM
The only way to make them go away is to get measure Z passed. I implore every person in favor of this measure to get out the word and put this to rest once and for all. The measure last year nearly passed (approx 10% away) - they always fail to mention this - and the difference will simply be getting those of us who don't sit and blog all day about how bad the world is to the voting poll, registered if you aren't already, or getting your mail in ballots in. Tell your friends and let's get this done. It really is that simple.
Ken Mayes August 31, 2012 at 07:32 PM
Mike Assuming this tax passes, almost don't count. The people that oppose this tax will pay it IF it should pass and in a couple of years when the city proves how irresponsible they are in spending this money a group of citizens will place on the ballot a measure to eliminate it, just like they did when Ortega Trails ran it.
Martha L. Bridges September 01, 2012 at 02:15 AM
How true, Ken, our system does allow bad decisions to be undone. It's often a long, hard road, but can be done. I remember the day the people voted overwhelmingly to defund the Ortega Trails! And by the way, I appreciate your previous comment. You were right that what I said about the costs was probably too big a number for most people to grasp. So I took your good advice and will stick to the cost per acre or cost per day figures. Any way you add it up, Measure "Z" asks for far more than what is necessary to maintain our three existing parks. And, it is downright silly to refer to Heritage Regency and Windsong as "community" parks. They are neighborhood parks - one little more than a walkway to school, and the other an outsized tot lot. Have a great holiday weekend.
julie dawson September 01, 2012 at 03:48 AM
No Martha he is sticking up for the little girl and grandma because you insulted them. It's that simple, where do you get all these ridiculous ideas. Stop insulting people, and show some respect to others, good grief.
Constant Comment September 01, 2012 at 03:00 PM
Marfa, you are a FOOL. Sometimes peoples comments can't be "undone". It is evident that even your ONE friend can't stand you. Trying to spin, that only shows how desperate you are. If you "appreciate" Kens threat, then you are farther gone then we previously thought. Never too late to get some help & leave all the "tot lot" problems to people that are more qualified. }~)
Martha L. Bridges September 01, 2012 at 06:42 PM
You and your little (as in a very few people) gang of critics who are nothing more than Bridgette's Attack Brigade take your mean, nasty unfounded criticisms and go crawl into the dark, negative reality you call your life.
Constant Comment September 02, 2012 at 04:18 AM
Marfa, you know I surely would but I see you already occupy that space. It's never too late to get some help. As always, we encourage you to do so! }~)
Bill M October 04, 2012 at 06:29 PM
If I vote yes, how soon will my parks be reopened. And will they improve the dog park off Corydon / Union? Before it closed, it was a dirt pile. Will there be grass planted? Just asking for the truth.
Martha L. Bridges October 05, 2012 at 02:51 PM
The truth, Bill, is that the parks will most likely be maintained in much the same manner as they were before...poorly. This city council is not concerned with the quality of work performed on our streets, parks or anything else. They just want to report that they have done something, despite the fact that the work has been done substandard and ineffectively. In Wildomar there is no quality control. Just look at the roads which have been resurfaced and are worse now than before the work was done.
Teller of Truth October 05, 2012 at 06:16 PM
The TRUTH IS .....Bill, that Marfa would not know the TRUTH if it bit her! Do not fall for her cranky, self serving comments. She has her own clear agenda in regards to fighting with the city hall on ANYTHING they try to do. It is a personal vendetta & her words, actions & answers are nothing more. Your $28 per YEAR will provide lovely OPEN parks for you and your family to enjoy! YEZ ON MEASURE Z!
Constant Comment October 05, 2012 at 08:46 PM
Marfa cowardly hides behind words like "most likely" so that she has a convenient 'OUT' when she starts back peddling! Her comments are nothing more than nasty presumptions because of her anger towards authority. To say that the city hall is not concerned, just reiterates Marfas hatred towards the board. Why? Cause she ran twice and got laughed out. No one wanted this selfish angry person representing them. Now all she can do is bash what the council is trying to accomplish. As far as how soon the parks will be opened? Have to get the measure Z passed first in order to accurately answer that question. }~)
KevWild October 10, 2012 at 04:56 PM
Voting yes on Measure Z. A city without a single park is, in my opinion, "incomplete."
Teller of Truth October 12, 2012 at 08:12 AM
"Without a SINGLE park' so you're not even from around here, you fraud!
KevWild October 12, 2012 at 04:44 PM
Go visit your friend in the hospital }~)
Teller of Truth October 12, 2012 at 07:00 PM
I just won't have the time now cause I have a new hobby..........
KevWild October 13, 2012 at 02:16 AM
Teller of Truth: I personally enjoy confrontation, but I'm aware others are probably growing weary of your fits and my smart mouth replies. This is what I propose: let's take this nonsense off the Patch and directly to email. That way you can try and scare me there. I will give you a rating between 1 and 10 on how frightened or worried I am. Okay? Anyone else that wants to yell at me or make friends with me, you may contact me as well. Looking forward to both. - Kevin kevinrc@planetmail.com
Teller of Truth October 13, 2012 at 08:51 AM
You must be as ugly in person as you are on this blog that you have to go trolling for one friend! That the most pathetic thing I've read in quite awhile.
KevWild October 13, 2012 at 02:52 PM
kevinrc@planetmail.com =)
KevWild October 13, 2012 at 02:53 PM
Yes on Z
Teller of Truth October 13, 2012 at 07:17 PM
HINT: Nobody wants to converse with a lying ugly troll...........
Roberto October 15, 2012 at 04:43 AM
What a dweeb...LOL!
Teller of Truth October 15, 2012 at 06:02 AM
Roberto, aint that the truth!
KevWild October 15, 2012 at 07:50 AM
Bill M There's a dog park at Corydon and Union?
Teller of Truth October 15, 2012 at 12:02 PM
@Bill M, KevWild is just trolling. This is a heads up for you. He is only trying to stir up "confrontations" as he has stated a couple of posts below. Take care......

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