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Steve April 20, 2014 at 11:40 am
He beat and killed someone almost twice his age, I can't wait to hear for what reason.
Lori April 20, 2014 at 12:20 pm
@steve... Really?? Does it matter? He is mentally unstable and has been so for many years.
Steve April 20, 2014 at 01:36 pm
Ok, so this wasn't some kind of drug scenario. I wonder if the victim knew that he was a mentalRead More case.
Police tape blocks off the Camelot Retirement Community on West Oakland Avenue.  Screenshot via CBS 2 LA.
chuck2251 April 20, 2014 at 12:13 pm
The suspect should also BE CHARGED with assault on a police officer ,along with resisting arrest.Read More They SHOULD BE TRIED AS ADULTS..
kristin c April 20, 2014 at 01:14 pm
Maybe if God were allowed back in schools, kids wouldn't grow up to be heathens
Ron Mexico April 20, 2014 at 02:02 pm
Kristin, some of the worst people I have ever met went to Christian schools. Try again. Also, theRead More church establishment is chock full of pedophiles. Fact. So, please spare us all the "if Jesus was allowed in the classroom" bull hockey doodie
Andrea Michelle Cardosa's booking photo released by the Riverside County Sheriff's Department on Feb. 3, 2014.
Brenda April 19, 2014 at 09:03 am
Seriously, where are the parents who teach these girls of 12 and UP, to not take off their pants??Read More To school teachers and anyone else? If they do it willingly knowing some sort of sexual things are going to happen, then who is here to put all the blame on the teacher? I sure cant because if my daughters had done something like that they would have known exactly what was going to happen because we drilled molestations and predators into their heads from the time they started school. We taught them every possible scenerio we knew and any new ones that came up in the news on how these predators get to them. If these girls are getting "molested" then parents are seriously lacking in talking and relating to their children and their schools are even at fault for not making sure they are watching all the videos they show now about just this subject. I am sorry, but if these girls were 15, 16, and the teacher was 24, there is not that much difference and with over 65% of high school girls/guys having some sort of sexual activity its going to happen. THe age of consent needs to change especially w hen these girls come back a few years later and scream MOLESTER after a 4 or 5 yr relationship, after reaching 18, and then of course file civil suits on John Does 1 thru 100. They will get some nice shush money in a few months and never have to work a day in their lives.
john blackwood April 19, 2014 at 09:36 am
Brenda you idiot , Dont you realize how ignorant you sound.So regardless its okthen , These kids areRead More still minors who are still growing mentally and pphysically . For a teacher to physiologically and physically take an advantage of that is a predator. Your talking about a person who went to college git a degree and became a principal, That means she probably has a masters degree.Compared to a child who is still growing up mentally .Wow you have issues .I send my kids to learnnot to be taking as sexuall object for teachers own wants.WWeather this kid consented or not any adult knows better.These girls were probably to ashamed to say anything .Brenda once again this shows how ignorant your pist is.
ChrisG April 20, 2014 at 07:19 am
@brenda, read about the reasoning behind statutory rape laws. Also, teachers have a duty not toRead More enter into sexual relationships with students. This goes for legal college aged students but most especially for minors in jr. High and high school. These are kids for Christ's sake and she is a predator. She went after girls she knew would want and need attention and not be likely to tell a parent or school official of any improprieties.
The couple seen in this photo are believed to have used a credit card taken from the same purse which contained a grieving mother's toys that once belonged to her baby boy. Photo courtesy: Murrieta Police Department.
KMA April 19, 2014 at 11:59 am
Brenda- the victim has nothing to do with plea deals- it is between the prosecutor and the defenseRead More attorney. The prosecutor is in essence representing the victim. So he and the Defense attorney get together over drinks and decide the defendants fate.
Dee April 19, 2014 at 01:55 pm
ChrisG, you're right, the final say is the d.a. Sometimes the d.a. Offers one last time. AfterRead More that ... Trial goes forward! KMA, the defense attorney strongly advices, but the defendant has the yea or nay. The defense attorney lets the d.a. know, and d.a. Makes the final decision.
Psychic One April 19, 2014 at 03:37 pm
Dee you too are correct . I'm afraid our fellow poster Brenda gets misinformation from crime showsRead More on TV as do many. Hopefully we will see these criminals get appropriate jail time.
Alexis Edmundo Garcia.  Photo courtesy: Murrieta Police Department
KMA April 19, 2014 at 12:01 pm
trueconservative- thanks for that- I did not see the post, but it's old news coming from Kleiner-Read More but i am surprised Thresher lowered himself to that level.
KMA April 19, 2014 at 12:03 pm
Thresher- now I see it- you are really scum of the earth, Have I ever attacked your wife?. No justRead More you. Give it a rest or I could be forced to come out of retirement.
Thresher 200 April 19, 2014 at 01:48 pm
I'm lower than dog dung KMA! How dare you call me a skateboard!!! I didn't attack your wife, her andRead More I attacked you! She told me last night to tell you to get your fat glumpy butt off the couch and do something other than go on the Patch and make fun of people.
Reynaldo Rodriguez Jr. Photo/Riverside County Sheriff's Dept.
LAKE ELSINORE RESIDENT April 18, 2014 at 02:52 pm
Yep Hestrin is the next D.A. and he will get my support and vote. Thanks again for the info butRead More like I said before out of the two Hestrin is the man for me.
Ken April 18, 2014 at 05:06 pm
Hey Carlos Danger, Well your spot on descibing Obummer 1. An organism that grows, feeds, and isRead More sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host. 2. One who habitually takes advantage of the generosity of others without making any useful return.
GARY BARTON April 18, 2014 at 08:09 pm
Remember, most laws have been written and passed by lawyers. Does anyone else see a conflict ofRead More interest here?
Andy Abegg. Booking photo courtesy Riverside County Sheriff's Department.
LAKE ELSINORE RESIDENT April 19, 2014 at 09:01 am
UPDATE: MAN DIES DAYS AFTER ATTACK Read about this in the Press EnterpriseRead More http://blog.pe.com/breaking-news/2014/04/18/lake-elsinore-man-dies-days-after-attack/
jim woodward April 19, 2014 at 09:13 am
i've known this fool for twenty years, so this is no surprise. he has never been worth anything.Read More his mother brought him, and his two brothers to me sixteen years ago to have a talk with, and hopefully straighten them out. this clown wanted to be trash then, and though i haven't see him in ten years, he obviously still wants to be trash. at least this time, he's going to the joint, and perhaps bubba will straighten him up
The alleged "Luger Bandit." Credit: FBI
Justice For All April 18, 2014 at 12:29 am
@JD tippit -- Preliminary press releases almost always report the minimum amount from the bailRead More schedule. Final bail is usually adjusted after investigative reports are completed. The county D.A., or in this case the U.S. Attorney (bank robbery=federal offense), will seek enhancements base on the investigator's findings. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This explains why your friendly "sock sniffer's" original bail started at $5k, but escalated to $1M when evidence revealed that he was allegedly a serial pedophile who attempted to kidnap a young girl. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When the US attorney gets this case, there is no doubt that the multiple counts of bank robbery with a firearm will cause his bail to soar. But, I doubt that you will see that level of follow-up in the media for this case. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BTW: I don't mind explaining these things to you and others who are unfamiliar with the legal system. I just find it sad that you tend to frequently embarrass yourself on the Patch by making absurd comments before you have made any apparent effort to educate yourself. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Perhaps, if you spent just a little more time gathering some facts on topics, you could provide insightful comments instead of the misinformed remarks that you usually make. I'm sure it would draw more positive attention, rather than the hateful disdain from others that seems to follow you. ~Please accept this as constructive criticism... good luck.
Andy the Analyst April 18, 2014 at 03:50 am
J. D. Tippit (September 18, 1924 – November 22, 1963) was an American police officer with theRead More Dallas Police Department who was, according to two federal government investigations, shot and killed by 24-year-old former Marine Lee Harvey Oswald.
TVOR April 18, 2014 at 10:25 am
@ justice for all. I think you simply ask too much of the trolls on this site.
Mitchell Steven Behm (L) and David Delgado. Credit: Riverside County Sheriff's Dept.
LAKE ELSINORE RESIDENT April 17, 2014 at 06:44 am
In my opinion Lake Elsinore needs to replace the current Code Enforcement Officers and the man inRead More charge Bill. In my opinion and my belief they haven't done a good job for years. Our new City Council will make that positive change if people tell them they want officers who enforce the codes!
Peaches1960 April 17, 2014 at 11:58 am
"pay $190,725 in restitution, which will be divided between People for the Ethical Treatment ofRead More Animals (PETA) and the city of Lake Elsinore." PETA? They do not believe in animal ownership. They have let dogs out of their cages at dog shows, endangering the show dogs. I think all of the money should go to the city of Lake Elsinore.
Sarah Lish April 17, 2014 at 01:07 pm
It goes to show people shouldn't make judgements about things they don't know. Anyone who has had aRead More reptile who ate rodents as a pet know that "fresh kill" (killing the rodent just prior to feeding) is the preferred feeding method. Also, if the business was keeping them in horrible conditions and allowing them to "starve to death" shows they know nothing about running a reptile breeding business. PETA is the last organization I would allow to investigate anything that had to do with animal rights. Their political and ethical agendas are completely deranged. To reward them in the form of monetary compensation gives them the green light to continue their screwed up practices.
The Seal Beach Police Department served as the lead agency in an operation Wednesday morning that involved 15 police agencies spanning five counties. Patch file photo.
LAKE ELSINORE RESIDENT April 16, 2014 at 01:36 pm
Renee, please update this article as soon as you get the news.
john blackwood April 16, 2014 at 02:35 pm
Gee I feel alot safer now and how many more criminals are on the street? This whole article is aRead More joke and so are the police departments and the justice system.
KMA April 16, 2014 at 03:05 pm
John Blackwood = sour grapes- could not get hired so he rags on the police all the time.
Johnathan Schmidt's booking photo.  Courtesy: Riverside County Sheriff's Department.
Sew Good April 17, 2014 at 01:56 am
LMAO Singing karaoke??! Is this guy a walking circus act, or what? I'm sorry but the image justRead More makes me laugh and I can't stop.....!
trueconservative April 17, 2014 at 11:40 am
Would anyone hire or want to work along side of this person? I have walked into some businessesRead More where someone who looked like this worked and walked right back out again. Seems to me this guy does not make good choices in his life. If he has kids which I hope he does not I wouldn't let my kids play with his kids. Who wants to subject their kids to a man who looks scarier than a Halloween mask? Doesn't set a very presentable appearance or example for what to aspire to. I do judge on appearance and actions and this guy gets a zero.
Sew Good April 17, 2014 at 01:44 pm
Yes, true, he has a family and children and being dad of the year he tattoos their names on hisRead More face. In this case, judging the book by the cover hits the nail on the head. This guy is a skinhead, neo-Nazi, anarchist, white supremacist, hate group leader. People like that are beyond help and don't belong in society.
Andy Abegg.   Booking photo courtesy Riverside County Sheriff's Department.
Joni Lang April 17, 2014 at 10:51 pm
Sadly the victim passed away today.He will be missed .
Joni Lang April 17, 2014 at 10:53 pm
R.I.P Joe .
One Voice April 18, 2014 at 10:36 am
So sorry for your loss, prayers to the family!!
Simon Cortez. Photo courtesy: Riverside County Sheriff's Department.
voice of reason April 15, 2014 at 09:35 pm
Are you saying it was planned months earlier?
Steve April 15, 2014 at 09:47 pm
That was an excerpt from the pe story.
Ken April 16, 2014 at 12:45 pm
Seems like George met someone tougher than his ex-wife and this time he got the beating instead.Read More Only a coward and a slimmy pig would beat on a woman because their afraid they may meet someone like george did. 99% of women beaters haven't got the balls to pick a fight with a man.
KMA April 15, 2014 at 03:01 pm
Jason J- nice talk- do you kiss your momma with that mouth?Also grounds for flagging- but we willRead More let Renee handle that. " At lest it is fact"Jason the word is least. # Susan- thank you for your input.
jason j April 15, 2014 at 07:16 pm
kma stands for kiss my ass
JJ Mclure April 16, 2014 at 06:39 am
beaners smelling up the place
Murrieta Dee April 18, 2014 at 12:24 pm
Well now, this creep is back in jail with bail set at 1 million this time. Caught with childRead More pornography and trying to lure a child into his vehicle. Good job Murrieta PD
liss April 18, 2014 at 07:39 pm
After extensive investigation including additional witness and victim statements, the RiversideRead More District Attorney was consulted on the case. It was determined today, April 17th, that probable cause existed to re-arrest Mr. Garcia for 664/207PC - Attempt Kidnap. In addition, several additional charges of 311.11aPC - Possession of Matter Depicting a Minor Simulating Sexual Conduct were added to the case. Police Detectives obtained an arrest warrant for Mr. Garcia's arrest for the above listed charges. That warrant was served at 1:15pm and Mr. Garcia was taken into custody without incident. He remains in jail at the Southwest Detention Center on $1 million bail. To date, 12 victims have been identified in this case.
liss April 18, 2014 at 07:40 pm
HE NEVER SHOULD OF BEEN LET GO THE FIRST TIME .
Pauly April 14, 2014 at 02:10 pm
Saw the trucks and also counted 7 police cruisers rocketing by at approx. 100 mph on LakeshoreRead More (speed limit 45 mph) Drive.
KMA April 14, 2014 at 03:29 pm
I doubt if there were 7 cruisers on duty- much less rocketing by, especially that time of night.Read More Most departments might have 5 on shift for the whole watch- and that would be the end of mid watch, so most would be heading back to the barn. And unless you were going 100, how would you know?
Pauly April 15, 2014 at 09:08 am
You can doubt anything you want KMA, Im telling you I saw and counted 7 police cruisers blasting byRead More my house just past midnight on Lakeshore drive at approx. 90 to 100 mph . The reason I know they were going that fast is because I am approx. 75 feet away from LakeshoreDR. and its not the first time this has happened.
One of the suspect vehicles is described as a possible Nissan Versa.  Photo courtesy: Murrieta Police Department.
Psychic One April 15, 2014 at 12:42 am
Asking a child to get in your car when you don't know the child is a sign of a predator. So who's aRead More freak? Someone with no feet who dreams of smelly feet. You should know. Go suck on that tampon.
Dee April 15, 2014 at 04:59 am
Maybe JD has a tampon fetish.
Artemis Gordon April 15, 2014 at 11:34 am
Excellent! Now Castrate Him!
Patch file photo by Daniel Lane.
Elfbkr April 12, 2014 at 10:36 am
Purpose is to get impaired drivers off the road.
Diana April 12, 2014 at 03:34 pm
These are sure getting more and more frequent, you would think that the Grant for this could beRead More shared with some other kind of public safety so needed here.
KMA April 12, 2014 at 11:46 am
Scarf ace- while the primary function of the CHP is traffic enforcement and investigation in majorRead More metro areas- in remote areas they are the law enforcement. Not every city has a police force and not every county has a sheriff dept. And they are real cops- as you say- with the powers to arrest. So calling them AAA with guns just shows your mentality.
Ron Mexico April 12, 2014 at 10:12 pm
Lol scarf. Tell that to one when they pull you over for something you did wrong. They'll pullRead More their AAA card on you.
KMA April 12, 2014 at 11:19 pm
You got that right Ron.
Sheriff's booking photo of Kevin Fulkerson, released April 10, 2014.
TH Resident April 11, 2014 at 03:42 pm
Funny.....everyone else's comments were deleted. BG777 comments remain. Hummmmmm
BLUESGUITAR777 April 11, 2014 at 05:55 pm
I'm not deleting or flagging anything. I give you my word. This problem is an going one and I haveRead More nothing to do with it. This is the first time I've been on since my last comment a few hours earlier.
Geraldine Martinez April 12, 2014 at 04:38 pm
Its a shame people push to the limit and the SUSPECT in this case is the horrible monster. All IRead More have to say is MY PRAYERS GO OUT TO HIM N HIS FAM. The truth will surface and as long as your good with god..F**K what THEY say
Approximate location of shooting.  Courtesy: Google Maps
TH Resident April 11, 2014 at 11:08 am
I thought "zip it (moron)" was intended to have me stop sharing my opinion. Seemed veryRead More anti 1st amendment.
BLUESGUITAR777 April 11, 2014 at 11:11 am
It doesn't mean you actually have to listen... holy crap... are we going to do this all day? I haveRead More stuff to do.
TH Resident April 11, 2014 at 11:34 am
I feel we are becoming great friends. I'm off today, well working from home (you know taking itRead More easy).... I hope you get all your chores done. If you need anything, there is a Walmart just off RailRoad Canyon Rd. (just a mile south of the proposed site for the Mega Walmart off Central) on Grape St. I suggest going late at night or really early in the morning. ;)
http://knabe.com/issues/child-sex-trafficking
Alek J Hidell April 10, 2014 at 11:25 am
there would be no international trafficking in the US if we ended all immigration to this country,Read More legal and otherwise. We have 93 million CITIZENS unemployed/underemployed in the USA, (the world's third most populous country). the population of Mexico alone is just 118 million. think that over....
Alek J Hidell April 9, 2014 at 08:42 pm
And thanks for coming back to make a complaint, Willie boy. Bet you feel stupid. LOL
GARY BARTON April 10, 2014 at 10:59 am
He can put that on his next resume. "I beat up a person twice as old as me".
Josh April 10, 2014 at 12:37 pm
I don't like how Patch makes this about RCSD in it's headline and accompanying photo. No need toRead More make them so prominent in this article. But then I guess if they didn't, this wouldn't be news.
tony giron April 11, 2014 at 04:01 pm
So it's ok because god see all so those two that hurt those babys god will take care of everything.Read More So you ever deleteing me from the patch may be you should have a heart and think about those babys.because I am. And I will be the voice for that little one .
beaumontdave April 11, 2014 at 11:46 pm
I speak for God, he okay, the moon still rise, we are good, god good, fire bad, sometime, where JaneRead More and Cheetah?
Rob Turmer April 12, 2014 at 09:43 am
BD- read your comment with a mouthful of coffee. Still cleaning the computer.
"Exhibit C" from the complaint filed by PETA and the ADLF states that "...horseback riders charge at the bulls, threatening them with lassos and whipping them with ropes to force the animals to stampede."
KMA April 16, 2014 at 11:26 am
Andy- not are you all things street work but also all things bovine.
TVOR April 17, 2014 at 09:35 am
I think we should have a running of the bears and see how that goes.
KMA April 17, 2014 at 04:01 pm
Bears against bulls- that would be hairy.
ChrisG April 10, 2014 at 09:10 am
@KMA, I know. I am offering a suggestion to fix the needless drunk driving related deaths. You canRead More get anywhere in town round trip for less than $40 bucks.
Paul April 10, 2014 at 11:55 pm
@KMA There are a number of recent cases locally where the DUI driver has been charges with murder.Read More Some of these have gone to trial. One local woman got 14 year in state prison. ~~~~~ These were usually not the first DUI offense. They call it second degree murder usually.
KMA April 11, 2014 at 12:03 pm
Paul- that is true the key phrase is"not the first DUI offense."Most first time offendersRead More are charged with misdemeanor manslaughter. Depends on who the DA is and what kind of judge is sitting.
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