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Measure D Supporters Push For Yes Vote As Election Day Nears

John Lloyd, chairman of the Wildomar Blue Ribbon Parks Advisory Committee, said there is much misunderstanding and confusion among local residents about Measure D.

“Let’s make some noise … Yes On Parks.”

That was the chant coming from more than 50 Measure D supporters who walked through a Wildomar neighborhood Saturday to raise yes votes for the June 7 ballot initiative. The Measure asks local voters whether they are willing to pay an annual tax in order to fund the city’s three parks.

Families with small children, senior citizens, and high school kids turned out for the event, which began at Wildomar Elementary School with a ringing of the city’s historic bell and then trekked along Central Street over to nearby Windsong Park for a hot dog barbecue.

Carrying “Yes On D” and “Yes On Parks” signs and banners, the walkers cheered as some supportive passing motorists honked their horns.

But while there was optimism among the group, there was also commitment to a tough road ahead leading up to the June 7 election. 

John Lloyd, chairman of the Wildomar Blue Ribbon Parks Advisory Committee and organizer of Saturday’s event, said there is much misunderstanding and confusion among local residents about the ballot initiative, and he intends to continue campaigning door-to-door through Election Day.

“Many people think it’s a monthly tax,” he said of Measure D. “And they think it’s a big Mello-Roos because of the big 4-foot-high (“No On D”) Mello-Roos signs.

“It’s an annual tax,” he continued. “And it’s $23 the first year and will never go higher than $28 (a year).”

City Councilwoman Bridgette Moore was also on hand Saturday. She said the tax is subject to adjustment for inflation, but argued that an adjustment on the maximum $28 annual assessment is small. Any increases, Moore said, need to be put to the voters.

“We can’t even raise it $1 a year without 66.66 percent voter approval,” she said.

Measure D imposes the tax on Wildomar residents who own property in the city, and Moore said many residents think the tax is based on parcel size.

“It doesn’t matter what size parcel you own, the tax is the same,” she said.

As the walkers congregated at Windsong, residents throughout the city were going about their Saturday afternoon business, some of them oblivious to Measure D.

Sitting inside Arriba Baja Grill in Wildomar at Hidden Springs Road, local patrons shared their thoughts on the upcoming election.

John Barbee and Kristen Jacobson, a pair of Wildomar 20-somethings, chatted over lunch. Neither is planning to vote on June 7.

“I have no idea what it’s about,” Barbee said of Measure D, as Jacobson shrugged her shoulders about the initiative.

Trina Thomas and John Head moved to Wildomar six months ago from Menifee. They aren’t planning to go to the ballot box either.

“I won’t vote if I don’t know what it’s about,” Head explained.

Carly Amick, who only became eligible to vote in recent years, said she didn’t know anything about the initiative other than the signs she sees in her neighborhood.

Wildomar residents John and Kathy Ollier admitted they didn’t know anything about Measure D either but said they like the idea of community parks and would be willing to pay the tax.

“I am all for parks for kids -- and for us,” Kathy said.

As she pumped gas at the 7-Eleven across the way from Arriba Grill, 21-year-old Wildomar resident Deborah Smith was outspoken and enthusiastic about the Measure.

“Oh yeah, I think it is extremely important,” she said. “I have a niece and nephew who use the parks all the time. I am definitely going to vote yes.”

Ken Mayes May 31, 2011 at 06:14 PM
The adjustment for inflation is more money out of the taxpayers pocket therefore a tax increase no matter how you want to spin it. As for the cost of collecting a delinquency that cost is born by the taxpayer. And this increase is automatic every March 1st, therefore the city council can say, well you voted for it. As for when this tax can be collected supporters of Measure D apparently know nothing about Mello-Roos, this is a special tax not an assessment and can be collected at any time. The number used to calculate the 23.00 tax rate initially was 290 some odd thousand, the amount that the city currently pays to maintain the parks, also these programs are not mentioned on the sample ballot only towards the end of the impartial analysis. You mentioned the tax on apartments but failed to mention the tax to businesses and unimproved commercial property, these properties are your future tax base as property taxes cover very little of the cities budget. (This is why every city wants a car dealership, mucho sales tax).
Ken Mayes May 31, 2011 at 06:17 PM
I should have said that the cost of collecting a delinquent tax is born by the taxpayer that is delinquent.
Tina Tyra May 31, 2011 at 06:21 PM
Fact 1 - I'm not a politician, but I'm telling you it's not an "automatic" increase, so your whole argument there is moot. Fact 2 - Not sure what your reasoning is here, but it is paid through the property tax bill. Are you worried about getting a $28.00 bill in the mail? Fact 3 - LOL are you really going to use this argument? I think some paranoia is entering the picture now. Can you see any city spending the money to do such a thing over your measly 28 bucks? Fact 4 - Not true. There are park programs in place. Only you'd have to participate in your community to know this. Come to a dance class, Ken! Fact 5 - Someone who collects rents from 24 units can afford to pay for each unit. If there are four people in a house or unit and the cost is $28.00, that's 7 bucks a year per person. Are you seriously complaining about that? People in apartments need the parks even more than those in houses. Fact 6 - You are seriously misinformed an intent on spreading your venomous diatribe without benefit of true knowledge. Have you ever been to one of our parks? Have you ever been to a council meeting? Have you ever done anything but complain?
Tina Tyra May 31, 2011 at 06:27 PM
Martha, here you go again on one of your rants. I am one of Wildomar's voters and I'm not a fool. Artificial dependence on parks? Parks are a benefit to any community. Political football? Over 28 dollars. You are insane, Lady. The city council committed to what the county, the city attorney, and the citizens blue ribbon committee (which you didn't participate in) all recommended. I guess you're the only one who has a brain, Martha. You are what my kids call a "right fighter" You always think you're right and most of the time you don't have a clue. You fight about everything. Just ask your poor neighbors. We have found that the community is overwhelmingly supporting of the parks initiative. Hopefully, by a 2/3 majority. I hope the people of Wildomar send you a message loud and clear. But what will you find to fight about then?
Thomas May 31, 2011 at 06:28 PM
Every comment stresses the use of parks for events, functions, and park programs. I am just curiouos, if the parks are so great, Why doesn't the city use them? Events are regularly held in the parking lot of Albertsons by city hall instead of in the parks which would have more room and be a "nicer atmosphere" according to supporters of D (such as the annual but ocurrs more frequently BBQ contest).
John Lloyd May 31, 2011 at 06:41 PM
So you must have missed the: Several Movies in the Park Several Concerts in the Park 2 Mayors Balls at the Park Community Fair Annual Stargazer Night at the Park Weekly Farmers Markets Thomas, you really must get out more.
T May 31, 2011 at 06:51 PM
Martha, So the cost of this election isn't from the fact the lawsuit over the last assessment? And about that lawsuit, all because someone HAS the right to do something (file a lawsuit) doesn't mean it is morally right. Covering basic care of three parks is likeonly doing basic care on your home. If you only water the grass, cut the grass and clean windows sooner or later you have to deal with the roof, paint the walls, etc. As the population of Wildomar grows the city should grow the parks programs along with it, not to mention add parks which will be another debate in the city.
Tina Tyra May 31, 2011 at 06:51 PM
Thomas, the Wildomar Rotary DID have last year's BBQ in the park. They needed more room for venders and expanded to the parking lot this year, but plenty of other events are also held in the park and the BBQ will likely be held again there in the future. There was a free car show in the park a month ago featuring movie and t.v. cars. This was a free event. There is no way to even list all of the events that take place there on a regular basis. Martha wants to do away with Special Olympics. Yes, they take place at the park. Let's take away all the fun in Wildomar, the places for the kids to play, the dog park, the concerts. Let's be bitter and vindictive. Bah humbug.
T May 31, 2011 at 06:53 PM
Hey Mort, On another post you put two more years before you go, which is it? You complain about wind and rain in the winter so you couldn't use the park, what about in the midwest? It doesn't rain there? What about snow?
Tina Tyra May 31, 2011 at 06:56 PM
And by the way, Martha, I'll be happy to pay your 28 bucks a year EVERY year if you'll just find another way to vent your hatefulness towards the kids and the community.
T May 31, 2011 at 06:56 PM
Martha, You are right that parks are not on the list of what might draw business to Wildomar but it is what draws PEOPLE which is what draws business. So without parks to draw people Wildomar doesn't draw business. Kind of like the circle of life for a city.
T May 31, 2011 at 07:01 PM
Ken, Why would the city want to foreclose on a home or property that didn't pay? First off, how could the city say it was their $28 that someone didn't pay since most likely the person didn't pay their entire property tax bill? Secondly, I doubt Wildomar wants to own a bunch of houses over $28. Third, With an expanding population the city should expand its park programs, it helps draw more people to live here which in turn draws business to come to town.
Tina Tyra May 31, 2011 at 07:02 PM
Do you not read anything, Ken? The cost for inflation is 1.2% IF the city council votes for it to happen. Of course that would be done with citizen input. And if, as you obviously understand, the initial cost is 23.00, even if there is a 1.2% increase, we're still not at the 28.00 we've been paying since 2006. We all voted for it back then. As a community, we want parks. If everyone took your attitude, we wouldn't have schools and infrastructure. I am a business owner in Wildomar as well. I will be happy to pay 28 bucks there as well. I am a single mom and struggle to get by like everyone else. So what? I stand for parks. Vote YES.
John Lloyd May 31, 2011 at 07:29 PM
ALL POINTS HAVE BEEN EXPLAINED. ALL REASONS DISCUSSED. I RECCOMEND WE LET THE VOTERS DECIDE. IT APPEARS THERE ARE EIGHT PEOPLE ARGUING BACK AND FORTH TO THEMSELVES. NONE OF THOSE INVOLVED WILL CHANGE POSITION.
Gerald E. Hall Jr. May 31, 2011 at 07:34 PM
Martha & All opposed to Measure D, Okay Martha, here we go again. Just what is so off base about my comment that Steven Beutz' lawsuit cost us more than the parks? You threw your comment out there, now explain it. Everyone should know that I lived in Wildomar for 22 years, until 7 weeks ago when I had to move for personal reasons. I have been to nearly all the meetings concerning incorporation, council meetings, parks meeting visioning sessions, etc., and feel I am well informed on what's going on in this city. I stated publicly in council meetings that I no longer live in Wildomar and Martha has decided to grasp ahold of that and make an issue of it. You should also know that I have publicly stood up to Martha and Steven in council meetings, and it would seem that is why Martha has singled me out in this blog, out of many others. A slick way to make her own little clever personal attack. I do support the Parks and will continue to do so. I believe that all the cities in Southwest Riverside county are closely connected and what affects one may affect all. I am a senior citizens and rarely go the parks, but I find it incredibly baffling why people would begrudge a vast amount of the community the parks we are fighting to keep. Come on folks, $2.34 a month. That does'nt take that many bottles and cans to save each month to pay for the Parks.
Thomas May 31, 2011 at 07:35 PM
I guess I do need to get out more :) Heard of the movies in the park, but not the others. Only knew about the BBQ in parking lot because I get off 15 at clinton keith. Maybe, if the vote passes, we need a way to make these things more known.
Gerald E. Hall Jr. May 31, 2011 at 07:42 PM
Gene, I never used the word stupid in my comment. I did, however, indicate that people who don't go to meetings where these issues are discussed are "UNENLIGHTENED". nOW WHO IS TWISTED OTHERS WORDS?
Ken Mayes May 31, 2011 at 07:50 PM
More name calling instead of facts. I find it interesting that not a single newspaper, the Wildomar City Council or the registrar of voters website have published Measure D in its entirety. The only place to find it is to wade through 177 pages of agenda minutes. Keep the public in the dark until they get bit in the ass. This must be why some people want everyone to just shut up. Also not sure where the number 1.2 percent came from as there is no source mentioned but it is completely false. The inflation will be calculated using the CPI-Los Angles, Orange County, Riverside all items, want to know what it is look it up.
Bridgette Moore May 31, 2011 at 07:56 PM
Thomas - please sign up for email notifications from the City of Wildomar and you then you will know about the City events that are held in the park. http://www.cityofwildomar.org/stay-connected.asp Events held at the park by various organizations are advertisied through their groups. The annual City Egg Hunt was held at Marna on 4-16-11.
Tracy Lobo May 31, 2011 at 08:18 PM
Thomas, there was many events in the park, John got most of them, but there was a couple of car shows to.:)) We hope you will be there for the next event. I'm not responding to the rest of the false stuff out there, use your best judgment and conman sense. I moved here in 1985, seen the parks open and closed. Parks are important to me, and my kids are grown. I VOTED YES on measure D !
Tracy Lobo May 31, 2011 at 08:35 PM
http://www.wildomarvoice.com/archives.asp?CAT=2 Or you can wade through all the videos and City meeting about it. Enjoy LOTS of PARKS information!!
Mary Ann Mealey May 31, 2011 at 08:44 PM
Now that you have analyzed all of the pros and cons, be sure to get out the vote for NO on Measure D.
Thomas May 31, 2011 at 08:46 PM
thank you. I will. But i also should say, without this comment string, i would not have known there was an events email list. :)
Tina Tyra May 31, 2011 at 08:49 PM
Tracy, your freudian slip made me laugh :o). Too cute. "conman sense".
Gerald E. Hall Jr. May 31, 2011 at 10:04 PM
Now that you have anal-ized all of the cons, be sure to get out the vote for YES on Measure D.
Gerald E. Hall Jr. May 31, 2011 at 10:05 PM
PHRRRRT
Tina Tyra June 01, 2011 at 02:16 AM
Just an FYI Martha - I get google alerts when someone googles me. I'm flattered.
Gerald E. Hall Jr. June 01, 2011 at 02:45 AM
Thank You Christi. I thought it a good time to inject a little humor in the midst of all these comments. I'm 62 years old and never intend to fully grow up. How booring grown ups can be!!!!!
Catie June 01, 2011 at 05:29 AM
OMG OMG OMG MARTHA KEN MARY ANN MEANNESS GENE MORT VOTE YES SI OUI YA DA SIM IGAN CO TAK EVAT WI IE ON MEASURE D =-} remember karma baby karma- make yours a good one, it's not too late! Vote yes on D
Catie June 01, 2011 at 05:38 AM
Oops I meant mealey.....darn auto correct!

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