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Alleged 'Threats' By Lake Elsinore City Council Member Prompt Statement

“This action … was necessitated by the overt threats made against the Chamber by a Lake Elsinore City Council member,” a Lake Elsinore Valley Chamber of Commerce statement read.

Alleged “overt threats” by a Lake Elsinore City Council member to strip city funding for the Lake Elsinore Valley Chamber of Commerce have prompted a public statement.

A source, who asked to remain anonymous, alleges the threats have come from Lake Elsinore Mayor Pro Tem Daryl Hickman.

Calls to Hickman’s cell phone have not been returned.

According to the source, Hickman is targeting the Lake Elsinore Valley Chamber of Commerce and its Chairwoman Natasha Johnson due to her affiliation with the political action committee, A Better Lake Elsinore (ABLE). The group formed in direct response to the firing last month of Lake Elsinore City Manager Bob Brady. Hickman, along with council members Melissa Melendez and Peter Weber, cast the decisive votes.

ABLE targeted the three city council members during Brady's firing. But prior to the termination, Lake Elsinore resident Chris Hyland started the process to recall Hickman. She is adamant that ABLE and its members have not assisted her with the effort.

“I am doing this on my own,” Hyland has stated on numerous occasions.

The April 18 Chamber statement read, “Despite the apparent erroneous belief held by the Council member, ABLE is not a Chamber entity and is not a party to the ongoing attempt to recall Councilman Daryl Hickman.”

The Chamber maintains Johnson’s participation in ABLE is not a conflict of interest. For its part, ABLE asserts it assists "in positive growth for the City of Lake Elsinore," according to its website.

“Johnson emphasized that her political activity, just like the political activity of other Chamber members – from running for office, to donating to candidates, to serving on City commissions and committees – is absolutely and completely separate from Chamber activities,” the April 18 statement read. “The Chamber is dedicated to improving the business climate in Lake Elsinore and itself does not endorse candidates and strives at all times to remain as politically neutral as possible.”

Lake Elsinore Valley Chamber of Commerce President Kim Cousins did not publicly speak for or against the city manager or the council members, and he distanced himself from the Johnson did make a stand with the group, but said she was not acting on behalf of the Chamber.

Still, the Chamber contends it and Johnson are being targeted.

“A Council member had recently stated on a number of occasions that they would end City funding for the Chamber unless Johnson were removed as Chairwoman of the Board and the Chamber reorganized,” according to the statement.

In a unanimous vote, on Aug. 23, 2011, the Lake Elsinore City Council approved an agreement between the city and the Lake Elsinore Valley Chamber of Commerce. Under the agreement, the Chamber provides services to the city such as promoting tourism and business, as well as general services. In return, the Chamber receives $85,000 paid in installments over the term of the contract that is set to expire June 30.

The April 18 statement from the Chamber comes one day after its board of directors voted 12-1 to reaffirm Johnson’s position with the organization.

“This action (the reaffirmation) … was necessitated by the overt threats made against the Chamber by a Lake Elsinore City Council member,” the Chamber statement read.

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Diana April 27, 2012 at 10:49 pm
James you simpleness really does humor me :)
jack.... thats who. April 30, 2012 at 04:34 am
hhmmmmmmmm... no answer huh... what a surprise....
jack.... thats who. April 30, 2012 at 04:39 am
kinda harsh comment.... she is a pain in the keester at times you know.. if you do know c.h. , she can be quite a disturbance during a meeting and at times, not even close the subject....but she is on 'her side' all the time.. she likes to hear her voice on the big speakers... shes havin fun.... killin time and makin waves...
jack.... thats who. April 30, 2012 at 04:45 am
if alongi was still in office, we would not be in the shape we're in now... believe it ! he was a good choice who unfortunately got caught up in a bad decision. no one is perfect. maybe if we got kelly, btinley and pape back in , we could live high on the entrails of left over horse's asses they were feeding us.....when you can do the job perfectly, let me know. i'de like to walk on water too but alas, im just me.. and im good with that... be careful, not to sink under the weight of your perfectness...
jack.... thats who. April 30, 2012 at 04:52 am
ive watched this for 20 years...she should run for office--AGAIN!.. she didnt do well before.... i wonder why ? i hate to assume but, i think she spends too much time wasting time and trying to show all the issues of which seem to be dropped one after the other... time after time... im tellin you, she just likes to hear her voice on the p.a. system and watch recorded meeting an the old t-vo ... if she was as swift with her actions as she is to accuse, she'd be the mayor by now...
jack.... thats who. April 30, 2012 at 04:53 am
i thought ide make an entrance by poking fun at the inept... it worked !!
jack.... thats who. April 30, 2012 at 04:55 am
i am a tourist ! i just decided to stay--22 years ago.... now im here, i like it here, and this b/s just makes me laugh... sooo many concerned and yet not a one does a damn thing but complain...you gotta admit, it is amusing..
jack.... thats who. April 30, 2012 at 04:56 am
im blind !!!!!
LAKE ELSINORE RESIDENT April 30, 2012 at 11:53 am
Lets see you are Warner, Julian, Vince and so many more split personalities, and the sad part is you can vote, no wonder the City is an armpit.
jill smith April 30, 2012 at 10:05 pm
I like Uncle Fester not only is he funny he makes sense.
One Voice April 30, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Really, what are you the Patch Police, you attack everyone that comes on here even when it isn't directed at you, why don't you do us all a favor and go find some nice little chat room somewhere maybe they will appreciate your stupid, meaningless comments.
jack.... thats who. April 30, 2012 at 10:59 pm
thank you jill.. keep things simple and people will eventually understand the real deal around here.. i dont think he's ever gonna get it...ol "jc" seems to be more than happy to badger others, call them names and make stupid comments other than doing anything constructive or--actually going out and doing something to make a difference in or about the issue he bitches about.. just like a troll, hide under the stairs and throw rocks...and he has bad aim to boot !!
jack.... thats who. April 30, 2012 at 11:03 pm
i could be all the above... but sadly , im not... vince does amuse me to no end and he seems to be able keeps things on the truthful level.. you on the other hand, are not so lucky... but you keep trying.. eventually, you'll dry up and blow away like a turd on the lawn... .
Diana April 30, 2012 at 11:05 pm
Good job :)
jack.... thats who. April 30, 2012 at 11:13 pm
i love this armpit... if you dont, you should move...pretty simple fix dont you think ? no one wants you to be uncomfortable....so please, insted of wasting your valuable time whining on here, pack your bag, tie it to your stick, and hit the road.... dont forget to grab your beer and "cheese-its"...
jack.... thats who. April 30, 2012 at 11:15 pm
oh good.. i wont read those anymore... i was wondering how anyone could flip flop so much... i thought it might have been crabs....
jack.... thats who. April 30, 2012 at 11:18 pm
im thinkin ol "jc" more along the lines of a "rent-a-cop".... couldnt cut it in the real world so he's here trying to make a statement... nice badge... did it come with the lone ranger cap gun too.. ? now get out from under that horse. they dont give milk.... well in your case, they might.....
jack.... thats who. May 6, 2012 at 03:43 am
like in the 70's-- "if its brown, FLUSH IT !"
jack.... thats who. May 6, 2012 at 03:51 am
I DO VOTE.... and now im going to do it just to make things more difficult... happy now ? and none of the above you've mentioned.. although, some of the names you used are people who DO have something worth-while to say where as you, dont say much of anything worth wasting my time on... you are amusing though.. all that chatter..like a monkey reaching for a bruised banana... and falling out of your little tree.... well. ive had fun . thanks for that ! maybe later, we can have a battle of wits... but, you're unarmed...... ( i'll wait 'till you find some ).. have a nice day.
jack.... thats who. May 6, 2012 at 03:53 am
ooooh !!!! i like fuzzy.......
LAKE ELSINORE RESIDENT May 6, 2012 at 11:29 am
I enjoy watching idiots talking to themselves and it's a shame you can vote, fortunately it's only one vote (lol).
Diana May 7, 2012 at 07:31 pm
Oh but Uncle Fester can vote James, now you're back to posting under Lake Elsinore Resident, good try, if you are going to change names all the time to post under you might want to change the verbage in your postings, it's easy to see who it is that is posting just by your words......duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jack.... thats who. May 10, 2012 at 02:55 am
hey asshole... be careful who youre calling names.. youre not that hard to find and your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash.. go play with someone else before you step in something you cant get out of. i told you before, i am "not that guy".. i will not play with you so dont press your luck.
jack.... thats who. May 10, 2012 at 03:07 am
if there was a scarecrow there, you must have been the cowardly lion...or is it just the coward ? yea we'll go with coward...
LAKE ELSINORE RESIDENT May 10, 2012 at 09:09 am
Imagine, only on the Patch idiots talking to themselves and it's a shame you can vote, fortunately it's only one vote (lol).
Steve May 15, 2012 at 11:30 pm
man u are lame LER he was talking to you dumb ass
jack.... thats who. May 29, 2012 at 02:22 am
too stupid to pay attention but he has all the time in the world to cry about stuff he will never do anything about.. idle chatter, useless comments and name calling.. this is what elsinore is all about --according to him.. i vote for what i feel is right. and if i dont like it, i dont vote for it.. if i was talking to myself, WHY DO YOU KEEP REPLYING.. oh wait.....youre an idiot and just want us to know it....i got it.. thanks for clarifying that. im sure others will be happy to see that youve proved it..
LAKE ELSINORE RESIDENT June 24, 2012 at 02:39 pm
Looks like Melendez, Hickman and Web are making good on the threat, I am not for ABLE they are more people only for themselves just like the 3 stooges mentioned above.
http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/lake-elsinore/lake-elsinore-budget-adoption-scheduled-tuesday/article_67bf1e92-f161-53e4-b4be-bfa519e26d28.html BTW where is the scarecrow these days?
Diana August 1, 2012 at 06:35 pm
Does anyone know what is going on with the recall of Hickman?
jack.... thats who. September 5, 2012 at 06:30 am
maybe his phone was disconnected...? try "re-calling" him later !!!! hahahah i made a funny ! im so proud of me... i should write children's books.. but only AFTER i vote... i would hate to disappoint my loyal fans.. im off to wash my arm pits and sell more crack. maybe i'll find time to open a coffee house so all the whiners can have a nice place to bitch about things they will NEVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT... i love morons. they're amusing and predictable. like watching grass grow or listening to paint dry.... their bitter little lives with nothing to do but complain, squawk , whine and blame others for things they will never have the brains to fix or, be able to change. life is good. please continue to speak your mind before it melts into your underwear and matches the stain that im sure is already there. at least at that point it might be somewhat filtered before it sprays out like a hole in an outhouse...
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Bd June 17, 2013 at 11:14 am
It would be hard to prove a negative. Are you insinuating that the money for additional policeRead More protection was wasted? Seems like simple logic to me that increased police presence over time would result in less crime, which would in-turn lead to more tourism, which would bring in more money for the City. Laguna Niguel is ranked every year as one of the safest cities in the U.S. Since there's so little crime there, why do they waste their money on any police at all???
LAKE ELSINORE RESIDENT June 17, 2013 at 12:45 pm
I want to see more cops on the street and I want to know if there was less crime.. I think weRead More need more police and I believe the PSAC is a waste of money, money which could go towards more police (no matter how small).
American Girl June 17, 2013 at 04:56 pm
EVMWD rates are a crime! Take those darn pensions away and lower our rates. Over paid slackers!
LAKE ELSINORE RESIDENT June 17, 2013 at 06:26 pm
Martha you should contact the police it sounds like Kevin Is Stalking You. seriously
Martha L. Bridges June 17, 2013 at 08:22 pm
LER, thanks for your concern. I am very aware of the danger and have already taken my concerns toRead More the police and the city. If they are unwilling to take corrective or preventative measures, I will move up the ladder to those who understand their obligation to protect citizens from this kind of threat.
Kevin Jon Sax June 17, 2013 at 11:08 pm
Martha, there is no threat. And L.E.R. is someone you would actually carry conversation with?Read More Don't you have standards? I was just about to delete this whole thread because it ran its course, but then you have informed that you perceive a threat. As far as walking by your house, I live in the area and have friends and business there. And in the unlikely chance that someone is attacking you or vandalizing your property, I would assist in defending your property or your person. Make no mistake, you're a nuisance, destructive, and everything I don't want to be, but I will never bring or allow in my presence anything detrimental to your direct safety. It's not how I roll. And by gawd, get a hold of yourself; I'd be miserable if I had a soul like yours. PS: ANYTIME you want to extend an olive branch, I won't bite, nor will I hold my breath either.
Kevin Jon Sax June 15, 2013 at 09:55 pm
Ken Mayes, what sin? Have I harmed anyone? Do tell. Harming people is not in my value system.
Martha L. Bridges June 16, 2013 at 08:24 am
LER, you have offered me good advice, and I am going to take it to heart and close out myRead More contribution to this article with this one last comment. In short, enough has been said on all sides and it is time to return to my very real work of trying to help fix what is wrong in Wildomar. There is plenty of real work to be done.
Gil Rasmussen June 16, 2013 at 10:02 am
The original intention of Wildomar Magazine, when I initiated publication at the same time thatRead More Wildomar became a city, was to provoke people to think for themselves. A side benefit of publishing a provocative commentary occurs when public officials, such as Planning Commissioner Bobby Swann and Citizens Park Oversight Committee Chairman John Lloyd, are provoked to express their true feelings, as well as their mental and ethical shortcomings. Calling citizens of Wildomar by the derogatory name, "Stoops," is direct evidence of their mental and ethical shortcomings, as well as beneath the dignity of an appointed position with the City of Wildomar. We have the WILDOMAR.CA.LOCALS Facebook page to thank for the beneficial "self-disclosures" by Swann and Lloyd.
Ken Mayes June 15, 2013 at 06:55 am
The city is so excited they forgot to put this event on the cities website.
Rose Vicente June 15, 2013 at 09:16 am
Why not a parade in the streets?
Martha L. Bridges June 15, 2013 at 07:20 pm
Rose, we've had five years of having celebrations large and small with all the trappings ofRead More city-hood that Bridgette Moore could conjure up - right down to spending money the city didn't have to purchase monogrammed M&M. I suggest it's time to ring the bell and then get back to the real work of running the city. That would include doing the essential foundational work that has been skipped over in favor of window dressing and nonsense for the first five years.
scott osborne June 13, 2013 at 12:07 am
not to mention the day before someone hit a parked car on the same street, don't worry police showedRead More a good 50 min later, Wildomar needs a discount from the sheriffs dept for sure
Toni McAllister (Editor) June 12, 2013 at 05:02 pm
Yes ... Thanks for the reminder Tammi ...Read More http://lakeelsinore-wildomar.patch.com/groups/schools/p/lakeside-high-school-pool-open-to-public-through-aug-2
Barbara Dye June 13, 2013 at 12:02 am
Thanks Toni. I was just going to leave Tammi a comment about it.
BLUESGUITAR777 June 11, 2013 at 10:16 am
That place is weird. Cult like almost in their practices. The holding out the last note of everyRead More worship song to "invoke the spirit" is just totally unnecessary. I was glad to leave.
lotsahelp June 6, 2013 at 12:34 pm
TY for catching this!!!
Jeff Greene June 8, 2013 at 09:57 am
To be clear, Supervisor Jeffries is not yet in support of charging for parking at the hospital, butRead More supported Supervisor Stone's request to have it evaluated, and is willing to consider it based on the results. In his quotes that day he mentioned that when Kaiser started charging for their new structure, they almost immediately changed their mind because the response was so negative. Supervisor Jeffries' main interest in supporting a study of all the county's parking facilities was to determine whether we could save money on the parking structures we already charge for by going to an automated system, rather than staffing it full time with multiple county employees. We have been told that we are actually losing money on the fees we collect for parking, and if that is true, we want to either switch to a cheaper collection system or eliminate the fees entirely.
Chris Twining June 13, 2013 at 12:55 am
Let's hope not. Charging for parking, especially at a hospital, is disgusting to say the least. IRead More got an idea. Let's see if just one elected official can so SOMETHING!!! other than sitting around trying to figure out more and more ways to separate us from our money. Do you have a clue as to what's going on around you? Do you get out of bed in the morning? turn on the TV? go outside? You are 10 years too late. That kind of thing from elected politicians is over. Stop trying to raise money. There are so many things out there you could be doing to make a good name for yourself, and 99% of those things involve cutting spending. Get to the bottom of some things. Imagine how people would react to that. They would swarm at your feet and hold you in high regard. And if you ever find yourself in the hospital, I will gladly come visit you as long as I dont have to pay to park.
some guy June 7, 2013 at 11:00 pm
keep it up man, if my kids were a bit older i would use you without a doubt... good luck
Steve Newman June 6, 2013 at 04:01 pm
Too late to move now- there goes the hood
American Girl June 7, 2013 at 09:41 pm
Shane and Martha probably had to change their underwear
Tombo0055 June 9, 2013 at 07:08 am
He almost melted when he stepped off AF one into 110 degree heat but he should be used to it whereRead More he came from.
Elsinore 33 May 29, 2013 at 07:33 am
It is the same council person who had the city manager move next door to her in order to secure hisRead More job. It didn't last long because Melissa fired him for being lazy and not doing anything for all the years he held the CM position. The CM tried to get this Council person appointed but Melissa would have none of it. Melissa is tough as nails, good job Melissa, the lady Roberto talks about is the same person who now approves this former Council person. How wack is that! Make up your mind and I get my documents from City Hall, the new CM is all too happy to give me what I want..
Elsinore 33 May 31, 2013 at 06:29 am
Th eperson who bought the documents and won the qui tam lawsuite is Edith Stafford. She has decadesRead More of documents and exposes corrution in Lake Elsinore and even makes a few bucks with winning a qui tam lawsuite. I forgot about how valuable Edith is to exposing corruption! LER and Roberto..talk anonst yourself, you are the same eprson! Do you agree that Edith Stafford is the greatest exposer of corruption to have lived in Lake Elsinore. The fact that she won money in a qui tam law suit proves she is the greatest person the shout the truth to live in Lake Elsinore. No one has done more to expose corrution.
LAKE ELSINORE RESIDENT May 31, 2013 at 09:07 am
ROTFLMAO, now for you viewing pleasures the questionable antics of Lake Elsinore's government inRead More action. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-psji9pAoI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nabtSQHyzCE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T2u8WsqbYM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m_HypxyudI