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Giant Rooftop Statue Causes Some Grief In Lake Elsinore

There is no word yet on when work on the statue will resume.

A giant rooftop statue that was approved by the City of Lake Elsinore last year has caused some heartburn more than 12 months later.

The owners of a 6,000-square-foot medical office on Lakeshore Drive near Four Corners received approval by the city in summer 2011 to move forward on constructing a large-scale mortar and pestle statue for their new building’s rooftop.

Despite the green light, Richard MacHott, environmental planning consultant for the city, informed the Lake Elsinore Planning Commission Tuesday night that the mega adornment’s construction has been halted because the statue is more “onerous” than planned.

“We are negotiating with them,” MacHott said of the city’s most recent conversations with the owners over the ongoing construction of the highly visible embellishment.

Commissioner Michael O’Neal called the statue a giant “bird bath” Tuesday night and was critical of the design from the start.

There is no word yet on when work on the statue will resume.

Antonio October 18, 2012 at 02:25 AM
Diana, how is Lucas oil paying their fair share?
jill smith October 18, 2012 at 02:48 AM
That is so cool, it is a mortar and pestle, I love it. I agree with lovemycountry, and I am going to give the planning commission an ear full. In my opinion it is selfish and foolish for them to criticize something so nice. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THEM. I also love the shape of the building, it looks sleek and modern. Mike Oneal, is weird, he has a bad temper, and can be a real creep. Micke close your pie hole and , find another way to feel relevant.
jill smith October 18, 2012 at 02:59 AM
The council has the final say, I am curious what their thoughts are regarding the planning commissions decision.
Diana October 18, 2012 at 04:19 AM
Lyn: Gee I don't know, I guess the magic fairy turned this pile of dirt into a venue that has housed the nationals for off road dirt bikes, that put LE on National TV, the Lucas Oil truck races, not to mention the millions of dollars that it has taken to turn a Lake bed into a venue. Let's see the first event every Hotel was at full capacity, every place to eat was kickin butt in sales and so were the local grocery stores, liquor stores and gas stations. Fair share..............I guess you want taxes, permits, that are already paid just to be here!!!!!!!! What is it that you want Lucas Oil to do, drop a big fat check on your door step?????? They are feeding our Cities broke economy, in case you didn't notice other towns around us are having sports parks, water parks etc., built and used on the backs of City and County funding.......Lucas Oil isn't doing that!!! They hold their own and ask for no financial funding from the City or County to hold an event, geez what do you people want?
KevWild October 18, 2012 at 06:04 AM
: Maybe I need new glasses. The statue doesn't look like any big deal or problem.
Steven Smith October 18, 2012 at 06:18 AM
The building looks ok...but they really do need to rethink the design of the mortar/pestle, the top piece that sticks out.......looks like a male body part...sorry to say :P Once you see it.....you can't unsee it. At least reshape it somehow.
julie dawson October 18, 2012 at 11:59 AM
Really good points Chris, you can tell a lot of thought and care went in to the planning of this building, and the owner gets nothing but abuse and stupidity!
Antonio October 18, 2012 at 03:41 PM
Diana: I want an increase in the hotel occupancy tax that was considered and then rejected by the Council members who are shilling for the business community. Outsider businesses come in and use our natural resources and the residents (taxpayers) foot the bill while the for-profit businesses benefit. It's called corporate welfare.
jill smith October 18, 2012 at 04:09 PM
Forgive my language, but he is an as@ H@#@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jill smith October 18, 2012 at 04:23 PM
No Kev your eyes are fine, it looks quite nice. I guess hicks like Oneal want everything to be ugly, boring, and mediocre like himself. Oneial is Maghees good friend, anyone surprised? Maghee stalled any major progress in this city by bringing his friends into city government, including Bob Brady the old city manager, who had no city manager experience.
Diana October 18, 2012 at 04:32 PM
I sent an email to Bob Buster yesterday regarding Grand Ave, LV, I will let everyone know when he responds and what that response is.
jill smith October 18, 2012 at 05:13 PM
I second that!
Reverend Smith October 18, 2012 at 05:28 PM
The shape of the building is not the issue. Another, redundant drug dealer isn't even the issue. The issue is that the proposal submitted to the city was deceptive and the city is right to reject it on that grounds. Corruption occurs everywhere. County cops "fix" tickets for officials, their relatives etc. they owe one. It's everywhere. But when the city is looking out for the community, it should be recognized. I'd say to the builder, they need to install a rooftop ornament that resembles the one they submitted for approval.
Reverend Smith October 18, 2012 at 05:33 PM
You're looking at the computer generated picture submitted for city approval. I'd agree, it's no problem. But if you ever pull yourself out of your Dummocracy 3000 smart-chair and actually see the building, you may notice that the roof ornament is twice the size in relation to the size of the building as in the submitted picture. It looks gaudy and ridiculous and is too close to the street - unlike the submitted graphic. Elsinore already has enough bad-taste architecture, thank you very much.
Reverend Smith October 18, 2012 at 06:08 PM
Another way the depiction in the graphic submitted by the builder is deceptive is that it shows this wide planter overflowing with greenery and pink flowers separating the building and the sidewalk and street. That area is greatly reduced in reality. The building, with it's towering mortar and pistil loom directly over the sidewalk. I can imagine it toppling during an earthquake, crushing customers and employees screaming from the building. What a horrible sight that would be. The thing is just plain unsightly.
Sherry October 18, 2012 at 07:50 PM
I drive by this all the time, I must admit it is too big but I am not going to complain about it(shrug)
Mozzie October 18, 2012 at 08:39 PM
Can anybody upload a pic of the real thing?
Diana October 18, 2012 at 09:02 PM
This project is not shut down, just drove by there at lunch and there is workers plastering the building. I actually don't mind the look of it and the building is going to be beautiful, it does make the dumpy old buildings around it look bad but perhaps those owners need to upgrade their properties. Las Palmas looks real shabby.
KevWild October 18, 2012 at 09:12 PM
: Jill, and Reverend, I live in Wildomar, so I don't have a dog in this fight, but according to Jill it looks fine. Rev Smith has the opinion it does not. As Rev Smith indicated, it's not the real deal. It's computer generated, so are you saying a bait and switch is going on? I'm with Mozzie, does anyone have a real photo? Thanks.
Anthony October 18, 2012 at 10:18 PM
Diana makes a good point. It's way past over due to upgrade the facade of these other surrounding business. Hopefully this will facilitate that!
jill smith October 19, 2012 at 12:30 AM
@ Reverend You're in your own little dummocracy, you are hardly an architect so pllllease. I spoke to a council member, that was not exactly sure about all the facts, he will get back with me. He did say the structure is larger than the originally submitted plans. It looks great, if it has to be scaled down for safety reasons or built differently to ensure safety then so be it. The good thing is in the end It will most likely remain quite large. :)
jill smith October 19, 2012 at 02:15 AM
You are so right, Diana, and maybe it will inspire others to clean up their mess.
Gordan October 19, 2012 at 04:45 PM
LER - You never get your facts straight. The development agreement originated in 1990 BEFORE TUMF. Yea, it expired in 2005, but the whole game changed. 600 acres was sold to the County, the economy tanked, etc. and the attorneys (both sides) agreed the DA should be extended. Lets say the Planning Commission and City Council voted against the extension, can you imagine the millions of dollars the City would spend in legal fees defending a position that has NO merit because of tolling? Look it up! You obviously don't have a clue what it is.
Renee October 19, 2012 at 06:59 PM
Pink. Well it looks great and out will put people to work. Since everybody is crying for work.
judy October 20, 2012 at 03:22 AM
Sounds like Lyn has issues with the owners and has decided to take the matters of her own personal issues against them. For a city to block construction when the permits where issued originally it means someone had to file petitions and try to play games to satisfy their own desire. Many business opportunities have been lost in this city because of people who are arrogant and fail to see the greater need of the city in need of revitalization and in need of a new image. Lake Elsinore is known as a drug city and known as the place not to bring business. Someone decided to invest and build and improve the city, how about that, how about show of support for these guys instead of allowing personal negativity and jealousy and bitterness to cloud your judgment. A good citizen thinks of a better America by thinking of the good of the people and in this case the good of the people is to help a new business bring tax dollars and employment in a city desperately in need of help. Show some SUPPORT and GOOD WILL, someone is trying to help our little town be an American and stand with the people not with arrogance. support local businesses ---------------------- JUDY N>
Mozzie October 20, 2012 at 10:27 PM
Got a picture of it today. Take a look, I don't think it's bad.
Balance October 21, 2012 at 02:37 AM
I don't think it looks like a penis. It looks like a bottle of champagne to me.
Mozzie October 21, 2012 at 02:50 PM
You're right, maybe it's going to be a liquor store too.
Alicia the Color Guard Advisor October 24, 2012 at 03:46 PM
I love it!!!!!! I hope they do not take it away!!! This would be a good landmark and unique having a large mortar & pestle! :)
Reverend Smith December 22, 2012 at 03:10 AM
It looks like it's flipping the bird to all that pass.

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